Re: [RML] Disease

caryho at ix.netcom.com
Sun, 08 Feb 1998 06:31:03 GMT

What a coincidence, I also received an email from him but it was much
less specific. I asked for more information and all the conditions
tend to point towards TB. High fish load, heavy feeding, high temps
and a low percentage of water changes for the bio load. I just advised
him to separate these fish, begin massive water changes, and cut their
diet back from the very high protein diet to more roughage. And
advised that he should spawn them as soon as they're stabilized,
because they are not that long lived anyhow and he's no doubt burned
up a good portion already with the conditions. I've heard similar
stories fairly often with the praecox. TB or just plain burning them
through their short lifespan seems the culprits. Unless you really see
the fish its hard to be sure. As a side note, he explained the spots
to me as a couple dark spots and not small red patches. He was very
forth coming with the detailed conditions I requested. I just hope he
has good luck bringing it into remission or preventing it from
occuring in the other fish. It you care to pass on your best treatment
advice, he can probably use all the good advice he can get.

Cary

Here's the detailed info he passed on

From: "Hector Castro" <atr72 at worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 15:02:47 -0400

Hello Cary,
Thanks for responding back, I am just starting in this hobby , I will
do my
best to be specific.
Water Conditions:
Average temp 86degF
pH - 6.8
Total Hardness - +-90ppm
Total Alkalinity/Buffering Capacity - >80ppm
Tank Cap. 38gal, weekly water change 10gal (RODI)
Fish age ? size 3cm
Symptoms: 1 Bloated abdomen, stays at the surface a lot and don't eat
well
2 dark spots at body but swims well and eats well
Feeding: Frozen foods, Flakes, Tetra bits, Discus Red, Daphnia,
Plankton
I feed them twice a day, Caned stuff in the morning and frozen in the
evening.
Tank mates: (crowded) I am in the process of getting a new tank,
2lrg,2med,2sml Discus - 4 Congo tetras(med) - 1 Australian
Bosemani(med) - 1
Black Ghost(6") 1 Golden Nugget pleco(small) 1 ancistrus Pleco (med) 3
Small
catfish(don't know exact name) and two silver hatchets(small)
Live plants (average amount)
Timer controlled peat on a whisper filter 8 hours a day
Timer controlled lights 5 hours a day to avoid algae
Magnum 350 with two bio-wheels full time (carbon)
1 under gravel Nitrex box (media change every 6 months)
Added with every water change(recommended dose)
Cycle, Black water extract, Aquarisol, Freshwater plants supplement,
RO
Right dissolved solids and Stress coat.
Thanks a lot in advance for your help, Hector

In The Dawn of the Third Age "Adrian R. Tappin" <atappin at ecn.net.au>
woke me from my contemplation by writing:

>I received this email from the following person whose M.praecox IMHO
>obviously has TB.
>Does anyone on the list in the US know if this is very common with praecox
>as I think they seem to be very prone to TB.
>
>Adrian.
>
>>Hi,
>>My name is Hector,
>>I have 4 Neon Rainbows and 2 of them looks kind of sick, one of them is
>bloated and stays at the surface most of the time, still eating but not too
>much, the other one have a few small red patches on the body but eats well.
>Can you suggest any treatment.
>>I already lost one after treating it with several products:
>>Furan 2, Maracyn, Maryoxy and Hex-A-Mit, None worked.Hi,
> ...............................................................
> Adrian R. Tappin
> "Home of the Rainbowfish"
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