[RML] Tasmanian devils

Gary Lange (gwlange at stlnet.com)
Thu, 3 Feb 2000 20:51:43 -0600

<x-html><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN">
My lab partner was out of control with laughter the other day.  I ask him what was the matter and he replied that his cousin had just emailed the following experience to him.  While (she) was in Tasmania, camping their group was supposedly attacked by Tasmanian devils.  Does such a thing occur or was this really a case of Queenslanders on holiday with too much xxxx in them?  Enquiring minds want to know :-)
 
gary lange
From ??? at ??? Sun Feb 06 20:06:23 2000 Received: (from majordom at localhost) by pcug.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7/TIP-1.13) id PAA14004; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:19:18 +1100 (EST) Received: (from smtpd at localhost) by pcug.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7/TIP-1.13) id PAA13978; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:19:13 +1100 (EST) Received: from mail1.postnet.com(209.96.6.26) via SMTP by supreme, id smtpdAAAa003Le; Fri Feb 4 15:19:01 2000 Received: from default (MOTNT05-107.postnet.com [209.96.70.107]) by mail1.postnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA22113; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 22:16:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <008d01bf6ec6$995aade0$d20560d1 at default> From: "Gary Lange" To: "rainbowfish list" Cc: "Gary w Lange" Subject: [RML] latin meaning - peacock gudgeon & size Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 22:15:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0086_01BF6E94.38DA29A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-rainbowfish at pcug.org.au Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au X-UIDL: 4edac7f2784eddfe791c876c99fee4b6 Status: U
Never took latin and it's always biting me in the *ss.  The best I can explain T. ocellicauda represents ocelli = ocell which equals little eye (does the i mean something else??)
cauda = caudo which means "tail".  So do we get little eye tail out of that or what?  If you have the answer please blip back.  If you have a reference please include.
 
Just curious, what about Tateurndina?  Any reference would also be useful. 
 
Baensch II states that this fish reaches three inches.  I guess the biggest one of these guys that I've seen is only ~ two inches.  Allen's freshwater fishes of NG {you weren't the only one up late reading Bruce} states a SL of 35 mm (1.38 inches).  That tail can't be any bigger than 3/8 inches (9.5 mm) so that brings us back to a TL of ~ 1.75 inches or 44.5 cm.  Has anyone ever seen a three inch peacock gudgeon or has Baench been using a NY ruler?
 
thanks,
 
gary lange
From ??? at ??? Sun Feb 06 20:08:55 2000 Received: (from majordom at localhost) by pcug.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7/TIP-1.13) id UAA18012; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 20:22:12 +1100 (EST) Received: (from smtpd at localhost) by pcug.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7/TIP-1.13) id UAA17988; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 20:22:06 +1100 (EST) Received: from bne005m.server-mail.com(202.139.234.85) via SMTP by supreme, id smtpdAAAa004Of; Fri Feb 4 20:22:00 2000 Received: (qmail 20284 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2000 09:21:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bruce) (203.147.168.57) by bne005m.server-mail.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2000 09:21:49 -0000 Message-ID: <004201bf6ef1$a555caa0$0bab93cb at bruce> From: "Bruce Hansen" To: References: <008d01bf6ec6$995aade0$d20560d1 at default> Subject: Re: [RML] latin meaning - peacock gudgeon & size Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:20:10 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01BF6F44.DA7C4620" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-rainbowfish at pcug.org.au Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au X-UIDL: 051574308c13000c9e672279251cb855 Status: U
I'm with you Gary
 
I have never seen a 3" Peacock Gudgeon - not even TL rather than SL.
 Andrew's mate Doug, in Canberra seemed to have the biggest of "Everything" so he may have had some big ones. How about it Andrew?
 
The "ocellicauda" refers to the eye-spot at the base of the tail - many gudgeons have some form of this marking. I'm not sure but I think the "tate" is a reference to someone named Tate but that  is my best guess :-)

Regards,
Bruce Hansen
president at angfa.org.au
Please visit us at http://www.angfa.org.au
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Lange
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 2:15 PM
Subject: [RML] latin meaning - peacock gudgeon & size

Never took latin and it's always biting me in the *ss.  The best I can explain T. ocellicauda represents ocelli = ocell which equals little eye (does the i mean something else??)
cauda = caudo which means "tail".  So do we get little eye tail out of that or what?  If you have the answer please blip back.  If you have a reference please include.
 
Just curious, what about Tateurndina?  Any reference would also be useful. 
 
From ??? at ??? Sun Feb 06 20:08:56 2000 Received: (from majordom at localhost) by pcug.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7/TIP-1.13) id UAA18018; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 20:22:18 +1100 (EST) Received: (from smtpd at localhost) by pcug.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7/TIP-1.13) id UAA18004; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 20:22:08 +1100 (EST) Received: from bne005m.server-mail.com(202.139.234.85) via SMTP by supreme, id smtpdAAAa004Os; Fri Feb 4 20:22:03 2000 Received: (qmail 20286 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2000 09:21:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bruce) (203.147.168.57) by bne005m.server-mail.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2000 09:21:51 -0000 Message-ID: <004301bf6ef1$a6ad1d40$0bab93cb at bruce> From: "Bruce Hansen" To: References: <005b01bf6eba$f943b640$d20560d1 at default> Subject: Re: [RML] Tasmanian devils Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:23:35 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01BF6F45.54DC1800" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-rainbowfish at pcug.org.au Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au X-UIDL: f0a49b58814b6805297f64d7b2affbb1 Status: U
Devil attacks? Pretty unlikely I think Gary - they are essentially nocturnal scavengers and carrion eaters. I hear that they could be a noisy pest at night munching on scraps left around the camp and growling and fighting amongst themselves.

Regards,
Bruce Hansen
president at angfa.org.au
Please visit us at http://www.angfa.org.au
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Lange
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 12:51 PM
Subject: [RML] Tasmanian devils

From ??? at ??? Sun Feb 06 20:09:03 2000 Received: (from majordom at localhost) by pcug.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7/TIP-1.13) id BAA17733; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 01:46:05 +1100 (EST) Received: (from smtpd at localhost) by pcug.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7/TIP-1.13) id BAA17710; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 01:46:01 +1100 (EST) Received: from frodo.MARSHALL.EDU(206.212.27.122) via SMTP by supreme, id smtpdAAAa004KT; Sat Feb 5 01:45:50 2000 Received: from munt02.marshall.edu (munt02.MARSHALL.EDU [206.212.27.35]) by MARSHALL.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #35868) with ESMTP id <01JLI73KGZR48Y6ULE at MARSHALL.EDU> for rainbowfish at pcug.org.au; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:41:22 EST Received: by munt02.MARSHALL.EDU with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 09:44:46 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 09:44:45 -0500 From: "Taylor, Ralph" Subject: RE: [RML] it's amazing what you find in stores... To: "'rainbowfish at pcug.org.au'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-rainbowfish at pcug.org.au Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au X-UIDL: d118294029fbbb84ecbffb9f792da5d7 Status: U Gary, I don't think that an attack by Tasmanian Devils is likely. I think that they have been extinct since the 30's. Ralph Taylor in Huntington -----Original Message----- From: Gary Lange [gwlange at stlnet.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 9:46 PM To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au Subject: Re: [RML] it's amazing what you find in stores... -----Original Message----- From: Scott Davis To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au Date: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [RML] it's amazing what you find in stores... >A number of years ago Jim Thomerson wrote a note to the Journal Copeia about >a shark being caught in the nets of professional fishermen in 1937 in the >Mississippi River near the Illinois town of Alton - a long ways up the >Mississippi. Thomerson didn't feel that such an incident would happen again >because of the flood control dams on the river since built. He suggested >that a certain water temperature (only seasonally that warm in the middle >Mississippi) was the limiting factor in terms of how far north they could >wander. > >He also alluded to the Bull sharks (aka Zambezi sharks) swimming up the >Amazon at least as far a Manaus. I wonder if some of the stories of little >kids being carried away, attributed to a giant catfish - the salton, really >should be credited to bull sharks, listed on some web sites as having a very >cosmopolitan diet, inclined to "believe that the area that they happen to be >swimming in is their area..." and being perhaps the most dangerous of sharks >to people. They (and all sharks) seem to account for far fewer people than >do crocs. Oh that's a crock :-) HEIKO SAYS :-0 :-) that crocs are really friendly little buggers and they really don't eat people. I just hope that if you ever happen to have the ANGFA conference in the NT that you blokes don't dare Heiko to go swimming with them just to prove his point. Carcharinus leucas has also been sighted in many of the African >rivers, the Ganges, Mekong, Tigris and has you guys have mentioned, >Australia, among other places. > >The Lake Nicaragua shark shark seems now to be just to be a bull shark. (See >the cichlidroom at www.petsforum.com/cichlidroom/reviews/ro21.html) A search >will turn up a ton of sites on sharks, including a Shark L mailing list >where every now and then a plaintive request on how to unsubscribe will be >seen. Evidentally a rectal gland enables that fish to adjust its >osmoregulation from salt water to freshwater. > >By the way, >http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Organizations/SSG/9Newsletter/shark9news.htm >does speak of a Borneo freshwater shark, either the Glyphis species >previously found in a museum or a new species discovered by a group called >the IUCN. They recently went there and endured considerable rains looking >for them. They found them in fishermen's nets. > >All the best, > >Scott >