[RML] Rainbows and snails

Cecilia Wester (cicci.wester at swipnet.se)
Sat, 19 Sep 1998 09:23:22 +0200

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Hi all!
 
I wonder if rainbows eat snails?
 
I have three tanks. In one of them I have rainbows, but not in the rest. I also have snails in two of them but not in the rainbow tank!
 
All the tanks have been planted with plants from the same shop, at the same time, so I think if the snails had come with the plants it would have shown in all the tanks.
 
I have clown loachers in the two non-rainbow tanks and they keep after the snails, but they do not make them disappear.
In the rainbow tank isn't a snail. There is mostly big rainbows like Boesemani and Herbertaxelrodi.
 
Thanks,
Cecilia
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Hi!
 
Is it correct that the Telmatherina ladigesi is called Celebes rainbowfish?
 
Why? Is it a rainbow or a blueeye?
 
I've just seen blueeyes on photos, and I think they look rather similar. I thought that it was just the rainbows and blueeyes that had two separate dorsal fins?
 
If it is a rainbow why isn't it in Allen's book about rainbows?
 
regards,
Cecilia
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Cecilia
 
I am not aware of rainbows specifically hunting and eating snails - although whenever I crush one against the glass there is usually a rainbow or 2 to scoff the carcase
 
 
Regards,
Bruce.
 
Bruce Hansen, A.N.G.F.A., Advancing Australian Aquatics.
 
Bruce Hansen, ANGFA, caring for our aquatic ecosystems.
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Cecilia Wester <cicci.wester at swipnet.se>
To: RML <rainbowfish at pcug.org.au>
Date: Saturday, 19 September 1998 17:23
Subject: [RML] Rainbows and snails

Hi all!
 
I wonder if rainbows eat snails?
 
I have three tanks. In one of them I have rainbows, but not in the rest. I also have snails in two of them but not in the rainbow tank!
 
All the tanks have been planted with plants from the same shop, at the same time, so I think if the snails had come with the plants it would have shown in all the tanks.
 
I have clown loachers in the two non-rainbow tanks and they keep after the snails, but they do not make them disappear.
In the rainbow tank isn't a snail. There is mostly big rainbows like Boesemani and Herbertaxelrodi.
 
Thanks,
Cecilia
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Cecilia
 
rainbows belong to the family Melanotaenidae and blue-eyes to Pseudomugilidae but until recently were considered to be in the same family - so are usually both included in hobby publications on rainbowfish
 
Related groups that are called rainbowfish in the hobby but are not Melanotaenids include fish from the genera Telmatherina ( from Indonesia in general) and Bedotia (from Madagascar)
 
 
Regards,
Bruce.
 
Bruce Hansen, A.N.G.F.A., Advancing Australian Aquatics.
 
Bruce Hansen, ANGFA, caring for our aquatic ecosystems.
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Cecilia Wester <cicci.wester at swipnet.se>
To: RML <rainbowfish at pcug.org.au>
Date: Saturday, 19 September 1998 17:31
Subject: [RML] Celebes rainbowfish?

Hi!
 
Is it correct that the Telmatherina ladigesi is called Celebes rainbowfish?
 
Why? Is it a rainbow or a blueeye?
 
I've just seen blueeyes on photos, and I think they look rather similar. I thought that it was just the rainbows and blueeyes that had two separate dorsal fins?
 
If it is a rainbow why isn't it in Allen's book about rainbows?
 
regards,
Cecilia
From ??? at ??? Mon Sep 21 13:38:09 1998 Received: (from majordom at localhost) by pcug.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7/TIP-1.13) id LAA01180; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:27:29 +1000 (EST) Received: (from smtpd at localhost) by pcug.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7/TIP-1.13) id LAA01163; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:27:24 +1000 (EST) Received: from forest.nsw.gov.au(203.8.108.2), claiming to be "forest.forest.nsw.gov.au" via SMTP by supreme, id smtpdAAAa000Hr; Mon Sep 21 11:27:15 1998 Received: from ironbark.forest.nsw.gov.au (root at ironbark.forest.nsw.gov.au [89.0.0.7]) by forest.forest.nsw.gov.au (8.8.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21217 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:20:00 +1000 (EST) Received: from res_1041.forest.nsw.gov.au ([10.4.1.53]) by ironbark.forest.nsw.gov.au (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA29075 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:17:30 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199809210117.LAA29075 at ironbark.forest.nsw.gov.au> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Matthew Stanton" To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:03:13 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [RML] Celebes rainbowfish? Priority: normal In-reply-to: <003001bde39f$a348bbc0$3767f482 at S-362455> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.52) Sender: owner-rainbowfish at pcug.org.au Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au X-UIDL: f3b2b72ccadf49cd6f626b32999f0119 On 19 Sep 98 Cecilia Wester queried: > Is it correct that the Telmatherina ladigesi is called Celebes rainbowfish? > > Why? Is it a rainbow or a blueeye? > I've just seen blueeyes on photos, and I think they look rather similar. As Bruce said it is different from either but it is the closest related group to Blue-eyes so perhaps Celebes Blue-eye would be a better name. > I thought that it was just the rainbows and blueeyes that had two > separate dorsal fins? Many fish have two dorsal fins including all the atherinids, mullet, gudgeons, gobies, and some perch like fish. > If it is a rainbow why isn't it in Allen's book about rainbows? Because he has done his work in Australia and PNG, not to the North West. Ecology Research - State Forests NSW - Ph0298720182 Fx0298716941