Rainbowfish Mailing List Archive: AW: [RML] Fish TB?

1. Yes. The only disease men can get from fish. Can be treated with
antibiotics.
2. About 100 %
3. No. Just take away the visibly infected.
4. No.=20

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Von: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com [r_m_l at yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von
Kevin Sheller
Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Mai 2005 20:24
An: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com
Betreff: RE: [RML] Fish TB?

So I'm starting to do some research on fish TB. It's ridiculous. Out of
the four articles I've read so far, most of them completely contradict
each other in a long list of ways.

This one says TB is rampant (25% of all the fish in the hobby have it)
and doesn't really spread very easily -- It also says humans are
completely immune.=20

This one says TB can be transferred to humans as a rash. It also says it
can be an outbreak and that particular antibiotics can work

This one says after you get TB you should tear down your aquarium and
start over. It also has an attached article that describes a guy's
experience with the rash form of the disease and near-amputation of his
finger.

This one says that if you have a fish with TB all you have to do is
remove it so it doesn't spread. It does suggest that if an outbreak
occurs then you need to do a complete tear-down.

So there are some similarities. There are some inconsistencies. What
have you folks found to be true?

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From: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com [r_m_l at yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Scott Davis
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 3:31 PM
To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RML] Fish TB?

Are you quarantining new fish for your tank, maybe
giving them a treatment for external and internal
parasites? That is probably one of those do as I say,
not as I do things until recently. However, I indeed
did quarantine some rainbows I bought at a club
auction a few years ago and they showed evidence of TB
and lived out their lives in isolation. More recently,
quarantined some stuff (not rainbowfish) that followed
me home from a national and had an awful time with
something they brought with them.

I would guess way over 50% of all commercial purchases
are coming in exposed to something, maybe many things.
If they weren't exposed at the farm, those central
flow through systems at some wholesalers do us no
favors. The illnesses you describe are all too common
with pet shop stuff, not a common with rainbows
purchased through club channels.

In some hobbyist circles, it seems that people are
observing maladies with some resistance to
antibiotics. That makes Bruce Hansen's dictum about
leaving them in quarantine to see if they die or not
seem more and more necessary.

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Yes. The only disease men can get from fish. Can be treated with antibiotics.
About 100 %
No. Just take away the visibly infected.
No.

Harro

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com Im Auftrag von Kevin Sheller
Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Mai 2005 20:24
An: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com
Betreff: RE: [RML] Fish TB?

Alright,

So I'm starting to do some research on fish TB. It's ridiculous. Out of the four articles I've read so far, most of them completely contradict each other in a long list of ways.

1. Does it affect humans?

2. Does it affect most (25% +) of fish in the pet industry?

3. Does it require a complete tear-down and reset?

4. Can it be treated?

Here are some articles and interesting notes on each:

This one says TB is rampant (25% of all the fish in the hobby have it) and doesn't really spread very easily -- It also says humans are completely immune.

http://www.4qd.org/Aqua/disease/tb.html

This one says TB can be transferred to humans as a rash. It also says it can be an outbreak and that particular antibiotics can work

http://groups.msn.com/FishHealth/fishtb.msnw

This one says after you get TB you should tear down your aquarium and start over. It also has an attached article that describes a guy's experience with the rash form of the disease and near-amputation of his finger.

http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/management/Keefer_FishTB.html

This one says that if you have a fish with TB all you have to do is remove it so it doesn't spread. It does suggest that if an outbreak occurs then you need to do a complete tear-down.

http://www.adelaideaquariums.com.au/faqs/disease/showdis.asp?DiseaseID=9

So there are some similarities. There are some inconsistencies. What have you folks found to be true?

Kevmo

-----Original Message-----
From: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Scott Davis
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 3:31 PM
To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RML] Fish TB?

Hey Kevin,

Are you quarantining new fish for your tank, maybe
giving them a treatment for external and internal
parasites? That is probably one of those do as I say,
not as I do things until recently. However, I indeed
did quarantine some rainbows I bought at a club
auction a few years ago and they showed evidence of TB
and lived out their lives in isolation. More recently,
quarantined some stuff (not rainbowfish) that followed
me home from a national and had an awful time with
something they brought with them.

I would guess way over 50% of all commercial purchases
are coming in exposed to something, maybe many things.
If they weren't exposed at the farm, those central
flow through systems at some wholesalers do us no
favors. The illnesses you describe are all too common
with pet shop stuff, not a common with rainbows
purchased through club channels.

In some hobbyist circles, it seems that people are
observing maladies with some resistance to
antibiotics. That makes Bruce Hansen's dictum about
leaving them in quarantine to see if they die or not
seem more and more necessary.

All the best!
Scott

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