[RML] Subject: Ron Bowman Fishroom + Evaporation Re: Mycobacterium
Lyndon Giles (lyndongiles at optusnet.com.au)
Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:54:12 +1000
I hadn't considered evaporation as being a water change. Yes he does top up
tanks occasionally. But still this does not happen often either.All his
water is well aged and airated. He doesn't add any chemicals or salts to the
water other than calcium for young fish.
I try to follow the same methods as much as possible (not having a fish
room) and I now do a lot fewer water changes than I used to. Mainly topping
up.
Lyndon
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:47:14 +1000
> From: finsen at optusnet.com.au
> Subject: Ron Bowman Fishroom + Evaporation Re: Mycobacterium
>
> Hi Lyndon,
>
> My interest is not so much in Myco but in Ron's water changing reigime.
How does he handle evaporation? Does he top up? Or does his plants have
some involvement in the chemical fixing of salts?
>
> > I
> > don't for a moment suggest everyone adopt this system but it is an
> > interesting one that has worked for decades. Ron has been keeping fish
> > since
> > the 1930's (as a boy) and has develped it over that period. It works!
> >
> > P.S. Now lets see the flames roll in! :-)
>
> I have a feeling that Ron's fish are not as stressed as other fishkeepers
fish are. Hence myco might not exibit the obvious symptoms. Without
performing the actual tests, you can never know if myco is present or not.
Chances are if Ron has sourced anything from the commercial sector (plants,
fish, snails etc) then he will have some myco. However I think you have
proved the adage that a happy fish is a healthy fish :-)
>
> caio
> Graeme
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:44:45 +1000
> From: Andrew <andrew at friendlymanual.com>
> Subject: Re: Ron Bowman Fishroom + Evaporation Re: Mycobacterium
>
> Hi,
>
> apropos of this:
> - I visited Ron's fishrooms three different times through the years and
> was always impressed with his fish. I think that lots of plants and no
> overstocking is the reason for his success.
> - The local paper (Highlands News) had an article today by the local
> fish shop owner telling people that if they didn't overstock, planted a
> lot of plants, and used carbon filtration, they would only need to
> change their water once every six weeks. I am sure that his heart is in
> the right place (Australia is a bit drought-affected at the moment) but
> I am not sure that the average Highlands fishkeeper will see anything
> other than "the bloke at the fish shop said not to change the water more
> than once every six weeks". If I had the time and inclination I would
> start a fish club here to educate people, but I don't. :)
>
> Best regards, Andrew
>
> finsen at optusnet.com.au wrote:
>
> >Hi Lyndon,
> >
> >My interest is not so much in Myco but in Ron's water changing reigime.
How does he handle evaporation? Does he top up? Or does his plants have
some involvement in the chemical fixing of salts?
> >
> >
> >
> >>I
> >>don't for a moment suggest everyone adopt this system but it is an
> >>interesting one that has worked for decades. Ron has been keeping fish
> >>since
> >>the 1930's (as a boy) and has develped it over that period. It works!
> >>
> >>P.S. Now lets see the flames roll in! :-)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I have a feeling that Ron's fish are not as stressed as other fishkeepers
fish are. Hence myco might not exibit the obvious symptoms. Without
performing the actual tests, you can never know if myco is present or not.
Chances are if Ron has sourced anything from the commercial sector (plants,
fish, snails etc) then he will have some myco. However I think you have
proved the adage that a happy fish is a healthy fish :-)
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:04:41 +1000
> From: "Lyndon Giles" <lyndongiles at optusnet.com.au>
> Subject: Mycobacterium
>
> Large water changes are NOT needed at all. I spend a lot of time in Ron
> Bowman's fish room. I'm sure most of you are familliar with the name. He
> very rarely does water changes. Tanks can go a year without changing
water.
> Ron NEVER has a problem with Mycobacterium. This is how he looks after his
> fish.
>
> 1. Doesn't overstock his tanks.
> 2. Most tanks are planted.
> 3. Keeps Malayan burrowing snails to clean the substrate.
> 4. when adding a fish to a tank, he puts it in a small container with 4
pin
> holes in the bottom ,then places that in the tank so there is no pH shock.
>
> Added to this he DOES NOT use filters in his tanks. Just airation. Each
tank
> is a self sustained mini ecosystem except for the addition of food. Now I
> don't for a moment suggest everyone adopt this system but it is an
> interesting one that has worked for decades. Ron has been keeping fish
since
> the 1930's (as a boy) and has develped it over that period. It works!
>
> P.S. Now lets see the flames roll in! :-)
>
> Lyndon
>