Re: [RML] Whats the deal

Larry Stein (lstein at
Wed, 21 Oct 1998 06:55:27 -0400

Please don't compare my fish to dumb blondes... they are very smart.. I
have them trained.. they do parlor tricks. maybe that could be stressing
the fish... I have the big fish jumping thru flaming hoops just to get
food...and the little fish have to hold their breath for 3 minutes for food....

Seriously, to anyone who felt I was making some accusation that some how
Roys fish where less than advertised I want to make it clear I was only
asking if perhaps there was a similar experience with ANYONES fish. I have
read on this list many people who have bought fish with problems before and
wonder aloud whether these also had a similar problem.
As anyone knows who has been in the hobby for any time IF you had a
question and could get a hold of Roy he would always be happy to help out.

Now tell me why the fish died!!!

At 03:43 PM 10/21/98 +1000, you wrote:
>I have had die off as a result of a mass cleaning before. Noteably only
>when the water became so turbid you couldnt see front to back. I wonder if
>a large amount of bacteria present in the water or possibly ingested can
>cause a problem. Small amounts eaten durring feeding are fine but a
>gutfull???? what if the detritus had absorbed some sort of toxin or maybe
>some plant food??? Rainbows are not real smart and will eat things they
>shouldnt. Are they not compared to blondes??
>Roy Hunter
>At 09:34 20/10/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>I have had 3 more bows die in the last 24 hours. I have NO idea why. I
>>saved the partially chewed on carcasses and to my very untrained eye there
>>is nothing apparently wrong with them other than they are dead....
>>Just for edification... my PH is between 7.0-7.1 during the day. I use UV
>>sterilization. My water chemistry is 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite, 0 nitrate. I
>>use CO2 for plants, and fertilize with Kent freshwater plant stuff..... I
>>do a 25% water change weekly and clean the filters every month. I have not
>>had a fish die in a long time let alone 7 in the last 2 weeks.
>>One thing similar is all the fish that died I did get from Roy before he
>>left for OZ. I was wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience
>>with the same fish.
>>The only other thing I have done recently to my tank is a slight change in
>>some of the plants where I removed a bunch of ugly over grown plants and
>>did a huge gravel cleaning... (much more than usual).
>>I would appreciate any comments on this.