Thanks! :-)
Julie <><
>From: finsen at optusnet.com.au
>Reply-To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com
>To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [RML] Gertrudae and flavours thereof
>Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:02:41 +1100
>
>Hi Julie,
>
>I keep two different strains of P.gertrudae, one from the Olive River on
>the east coast of
>Cape York and the second from Kennedy Creek near Cardwell on the northern
>Queensland east coast (south of Cairns).
>
>Both "flavours" are quite different in terms of finage (the Olives have
>larger overall
>finage), colour (the Olives have more orange, the Cardwells are more
>"spotty") and size
>(the Olives grow about 25% larger).
>
>Then again I have seen the Weipa gertrudae (on the west coast, slightly
>more south
>than the Olive River) and they are different yet again, similar in size to
>the Olives but
>lots of orange on the pecs, lots more yellow over all, and lots more spots.
>
>These sorts of morphs seem to exist in almost all rainbowfish, blue eyes
>and even
>some gudgeons (from my personal observation).
>
>I personally have only seen a couple of different morphs of tenellus as
>they pass
>through my hands at ANGFA Qld auctions, and as such I cannot really comment
>on
>these sp. But gertrudae do exibit wide regionally variations, but none
>that causes a
>viewer to think that it is not a gertrudae (ie/ they all are about an inch
>and look like a
>yellowy spotty blue eye).
>
>caio
>Graeme
>
>PS: Those cardwell fish are tough! They can withstand Brisbane winter
>conditions
>(down to 0 degC on the odd occassion with frosts) and breed like crazy.
>Not bad for a
>little beasty who is from about 1200km away from home!
>
> > Julie Zeppieri <bowluvr at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hey Gary,
> >
> > So with them coming from Indo, with no known source location, the
> > million
> > dollar question is: Are they worth keeping? I know it really DOES
> > matter for
> > many Bows, such as trifasciata to name an extreme example, but how
> > important
> > is it with tenellus and gertrudae? I know some Blue-Eyes have very
> > distinct
> > populational differences, and my guess is that others are more
> > restricted so
> > do not. Where do these 2 species fall?
> >
> > Thanks! :-)
> >
> > Julie <><
> >
> >
> > >From: Gary Lange <rainbowfish4u2 at yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com
> > >To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: RE: [RML] P. tenellus
> > >Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:11:13 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >I guess the question to start with is: Who is calling them the
> > rainbowfish
> > >study strain? That might give us a clue. Put up a URL if a pic is
> > posted
> > >somewhere. Via our friend Ron Bowman in Oz I brought in quite a few
> > >strains and got them into the hands of people that I thought might
> > actually
> > >keep them around. Roy Hunter brought in a few strains too but I think
> > most
> > >of those were quickly lost as they just ended up going just out to the
> >
> > >market. Also your question about tenellus Rarefish at LAX on Aquabid
> > often
> > >sells tenellus. They come in from Indonesia as they are raising them
> > away
> > >from NG now and shipping in. Same with gertrudae. Unfortunately no
> > known
> > >source. BTW this fish really needs a good source of live foods. I
> > would
> > >recommend not keeping them unless you're prepared to keep daphnia to
> > feed
> > >them along with extras of mosquito larvae and perhaps blackworms.
> > Live
> > >baby brine, really doesn't cut it but will do from time to time. They
> > also
> > >appreciate water ~ 100 ppm in the GH
> > > scale and a tad bit of Tetra black water tonic (or peat water
> > extract).
> > >That really helps to keep them happy.
> > >
> > >gary lange
> > >gwlange at mindspring.com
> > >
> > >Liz Wilhite <liz_wilhite at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >While I'm asking the impossible... does anyone know the river that was
> > the
> > >source of the M. duboulayi that is known as the rainbow study group
> > strain?
> > >
> > >Liz
> > >
> > > >
> > > >If you find one, Liz -- let us all know...
> > > >
> > > >Kevmo
> > >
> > > > Does anyone know of a source of P. tenellus in the USA?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Liz
> > > >