I agree. It is a very good reason. No shame in it at all. It is my reason
for keeping/breeding the things I do -- so that I and any of my fellow
hobbyists who want em in future will be able to. :)
Julie <><
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 andrew.boyd at dfat.gov.au wrote:
>
> Do I detect a slight hint of gentle sarcasm, Bruce? ;)
>
> Seriously, though, at the end of the day, for many species there is
> either (a) no going back to the wild, or (b) they are in no danger, so
> we can't use the "restocking" argument seriously. In both cases we
> are truly holding the fish "in trust" for future generations to enjoy
> behind glass, and I think that is a legitimate reason in and of
> itself.
>
> Cheers, Andrew
>
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
> Subject: Re: [RML] NFA Breeding Program
> Author: MIME:bhansen at ozemail.com.au at INTERNET-MAIL
> Date: 2/11/98 10:20 AM
>
>
> Thanks NIck
>
> The whole issue of breeding "conservation-intended" populations of various
> species in the forlorn hope that they may be useful for restocking into the
> wild has taken somewhat of a bagging in several forums over the past couple
> of years. It doesn't seem to have the same altruistic tone when someone
> has to lower one's aims from "restocking into the wild" to "breeding
> captive populations for other hobbyists" to enjoy ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Bruce.
>
> Bruce Hansen, ANGFA, caring for our aquatic ecosystems.
>
> Please visit us at http://www.ozemail.com.au/~fisher/angfa.htm
>
>
>
> ----------
> > From: Nick Thorne <nick at nativefish.asn.au>
> > To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> > Subject: [RML] NFA Breeding Program
> > Date: Tuesday, 10 February 1998 15:35
> >
> > Ho Bruce,
> >
> > We raise all our fish in all glass aquaria in our hatchery. This
> > obviously requires daily feeding and the culture of various food
> > supplies, but we simply do not have any alternative and this gets us
> > satisfactory results anyway. Since we are not talking about commercial
> > numbers of fish, we can manage OK. BTW, the trout cod are transferred
> > to the fisheries research station at Snob's Creek shortly after hatching
> > and are mixed in with the young fish they breed. The main objective
> > being to increase the genetic diversity of the fish to be stocked into
> > the wild as part of the trout cod recovery plan.
> >
> > WRT the issue of mixing the gene pools of wild and released fish, with
> > both trout cod and maccas, this is not really an issue as the releases
> > occur in areas where the fish have become locally extinct.
> > Unfortunately with maccas this is becoming far too many places and with
> > TC, they had, as you probably already know, already been reduced to just
> > two wild populations, only one of which was a natural population, before
> > the TC recovery plan was implemented.
> >
> > NFA is opposed as a general principal with translocating fish between
> > catchments, including the stocking of fish using brood stock from other
> > areas. In some cases, it may be demonstrated to be OK, but we would
> > need to be convinced on each case.
> >
> > As far as outside culture and keeping of fish we believe that as a
> > general rule you should not culture or keep fish outdoors that do not
> > already occur in the catchment in question. We have fought against a
> > number of proposals, for instance - to start barramundi farms in
> > Victoria, primarily because of the possibility of introducing Barramundi
> > Picorna Like Virus for which there is currently no diagnostic test.
> > BPLV has been demonstrated to effect a number of Murray Darling fish and
> > could prove disastrous if it were to be released into the system.
> >
> > Anyway, better go and do some work!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > Nick Thorne nick at nativefish.asn.au
> >
> > Native Fish Australia
> > http://www.nativefish.asn.au
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bruce Hansen <bhansen at ozemail.com.au>
> > To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au <rainbowfish at pcug.org.au>
> > Date: Friday, 6 February 1998 23:49
> > Subject: Re: [RML] angfa and aquaconservation--was all kinds of
> > othercrap
> >
> >
> > >Good to hear you again Nick
> > >
> > >> From: Nick Thorne <nick at nativefish.asn.au>
> > >> To: Rainbowfish Mailing List <rainbowfish at pcug.org.au>
> > >> Subject: Re: [RML] angfa and aquaconservation--was all kinds of
> > othercrap
> > >> Date: Friday, 6 February 1998 14:24
> > >>
> > > At present we
> > >> are seeking a permit from NSW to obtain another 6 or so trout cod for
> > >> the breeding program to replace the inevitable losses suffered(*) and
> > to
> > >> maintain the genetic diversity of our brood stock. We intend trading
> > a
> > >> couple of thousand Macquarie perch bred by NFA this summer for this
> > >> permit.
> > >
> > >What happens to these Macquarie Perch Nick - I presume they are raised
> > in
> > >outside ponds to a certain size before they are suitable for handling ?
> > >What disease control and monitoring is applied to them along the way?
> > >Are they eventually going to be released for stocking in water ways or
> > >only in farm dams? What guide lines do you recommend for outside pond
> > >culture of fish and do you have a local watershed policy for your
> > members ?
> > >At present the topic of breeding in outside ponds, translocation
> > policies
> > >and mixing genes and diseases between captive and natural populations
> > are
> > >hot topics here in Qld especially in the ornamental branch of the
> > >aquaculture industry.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Bruce.
> > >
> > >Bruce Hansen, ANGFA, caring for our aquatic ecosystems.
> > >
> > >Please visit us at http://www.ozemail.com.au/~fisher/angfa.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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