Re: Snails (was Re: [RML] Disease)

sbrooks (sbrooks at mail.cth.com.au)
Tue, 10 Feb 1998 22:08:56 -0500

Hi Graeme
After the loss of much hair, time and plenty of fish using all manner of
methods in a vain attempt to rid my room of snails, I found salt at
15ppt worked a treat, leave for a week then water change as usual. Salt
at this rate didn't kill any of the fish (rainbows, grunters and
plotosid cats) though some of the rainbows such as the Oktedis have been
happier. Though if you have planted tanks you may have to remove the
plants and treat them separately.

Steve


andrew.boyd at dfat.gov.au wrote:
>
> G'Day Graeme
>
> Potassium permangenate will certainly kill snails in gravel, and
> indeed even the dreaded "black" algae but it is a bit severe - the
> gravel needs to be treated afterwards to remove the traces of the
> chemical. Lots of washing and scrubbing ;)
>
> An alternative is one of the many copper-based "snail-rid"
> preperations - but be warned - the amount of copper that needs to be
> added to water to kill the burrowing snails is often toxic to fish.
>
> I haven't had a snail "problem" for many years now, can someone
> recommend a better way?
>
> Cheers, Andrew
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
> Subject: RE: Re[2]: [RML] Disease
> Author: MIME:gfinsen at brs.schneider.com.au at INTERNET-MAIL
> Date: 2/10/98 2:42 PM
>
> Thks Andrew,
> Would you think that this would work against those little barstard
> burrowing snails??????? I'm having to boil my gravel to get rid of them
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Many Tanks
> G
>
> > ----------
> > From: andrew.boyd at dfat.gov.au[SMTP:andrew.boyd at dfat.gov.au]
> > Reply To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> > Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 1998 12:49
> > To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> > Subject: Re[2]: [RML] Disease
> >
> >
> > Howdy Graeme, once apon a time I obtained some Vall from an untrusted
> > source - I
> > made a killer brew of 30 percent vinegar and boiling water, coloured
> > it pitch
> > black with Potassium permangenate, and left the plants in there for 15
> > minutes,
> > making sure I had washed every scrap of soil from the roots.
> >
> > The plants were fine - after thier leaves grew back ;) The object of
> > my
> > particular exercise was to kill snail eggs - it worked. This
> > Vallisneria went
> > on to grow thickly in a 120 gallon tank, until I put some blasted
> > Severums in
> > there and they mangled the lot ;)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > ______________________________ Reply Separator
> > _________________________________
> > Subject: RE: [RML] Disease
> > Author: MIME:gfinsen at brs.schneider.com.au at INTERNET-MAIL
> > Date: 2/10/98 11:35 AM
> >
> >
> > I have recently aquired some plants (Crypts) that came out of a tank
> > with what I suspect are TB infected rainbowfish. Does anybody out in
> > RML land have a procedure to sterilise plants of TB and/or other
> > infectious nasties.
> >
> > I was thinking of using diluted liquid pool chlorine and "dipping" the
> >
> > plants into it, and into fresh tap water several times.
> >
> > Any ideas would be most appriciated.
> >
> > Many Tanks
> > G
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From: Bruce Hansen[SMTP:bhansen at ozemail.com.au]
> > > Reply To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 1998 8:39
> > > To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> > > Subject: Re: [RML] Disease
> > >
> > > I'm not sure that 2 weeks is long eenough to get the TB to be
> > evident
> > > -
> > > probably it is only long enough to stress the previously latent TB
> > > into
> > > activity and then it will take a few weeks to really crank up
> > >
> > > Then I guess it depends how stressed they were and how long it took
> > to
> > > batter their way through from breeder to wholesaler and holding
> > before
> > > shipping out.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Bruce.
> > >
> > > Bruce Hansen, ANGFA, caring for our aquatic ecosystems.
> > >
> > > Please visit us at http://www.ozemail.com.au/~fisher/angfa.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > > From: Adrian R. Tappin <atappin at ecn.net.au>
> > > > To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> > > > Subject: Re: [RML] Disease
> > > > Date: Tuesday, 10 February 1998 5:46
> > > >
> > > > At 19:22 8/02/98 -0500, Denise wrote:
> > > > >Yes, DVM is Doctor of Veterinary Medicine and I work for a
> > tropical
> > > fish
> > > > >wholesaler in the U.S.
> > > > >
> > > > >_Mycobacterium_ is widely spread here too among many tropical
> > > fishes and
> > > > >others. There was an incident last summer in which a red drum
> > > re-stocking
> > > > >program had a small percentage of fish infected with
> > > mycobacteriosis.
> > > The
> > > > >media had a field day intimating that there was a significant
> > > chance for
> > > > >human infection from such a disease. Not that it can't happen,
> > for
> > > it
> > > can,
> > > > >though the zoonotic potential is quite low. Those of us in the
> > > business
> > > now
> > > > >use the term nontuberculous mycobacteriosis instead of "fish TB."
> >
> > > >
> > > > All live fish coming into Australia have to go through a 2 week
> > > quarantine
> > > > period. However according to a reliable source many of these fish
> > > are
> > > coming
> > > > out of these quarantine establishments grossly infected with
> > > mycobacteria. A
> > > > percentage of them die in the retailers tanks and the rest are
> > sold
> > > to
> > > the
> > > > unsuspecting public. I would hazard a guess that if samples were
> > > taken
> > > from
> > > > retail pet stores that most of them would return a positive test
> > for
> > > > mycobacteria.
> > > >
> > > > Adrian.
> > > >
> > > ...............................................................
> > > > Adrian R. Tappin
> > > > "Home of the Rainbowfish"
> > > > http://www.ecn.net.au/~atappin/home.htm
> > > >
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