Snails (was Re: [RML] Disease)

andrew.boyd at dfat.gov.au
Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:10:39 +1000

G'Day Graeme

Potassium permangenate will certainly kill snails in gravel, and
indeed even the dreaded "black" algae but it is a bit severe - the
gravel needs to be treated afterwards to remove the traces of the
chemical. Lots of washing and scrubbing ;)

An alternative is one of the many copper-based "snail-rid"
preperations - but be warned - the amount of copper that needs to be
added to water to kill the burrowing snails is often toxic to fish.

I haven't had a snail "problem" for many years now, can someone
recommend a better way?

Cheers, Andrew

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Subject: RE: Re[2]: [RML] Disease
Author: MIME:gfinsen at brs.schneider.com.au at INTERNET-MAIL
Date: 2/10/98 2:42 PM

Thks Andrew,
Would you think that this would work against those little barstard
burrowing snails??????? I'm having to boil my gravel to get rid of them
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Many Tanks
G

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> From: andrew.boyd at dfat.gov.au[SMTP:andrew.boyd at dfat.gov.au]
> Reply To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 1998 12:49
> To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> Subject: Re[2]: [RML] Disease
>
>
> Howdy Graeme, once apon a time I obtained some Vall from an untrusted
> source - I
> made a killer brew of 30 percent vinegar and boiling water, coloured
> it pitch
> black with Potassium permangenate, and left the plants in there for 15
> minutes,
> making sure I had washed every scrap of soil from the roots.
>
> The plants were fine - after thier leaves grew back ;) The object of
> my
> particular exercise was to kill snail eggs - it worked. This
> Vallisneria went
> on to grow thickly in a 120 gallon tank, until I put some blasted
> Severums in
> there and they mangled the lot ;)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andrew
>
>
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> _________________________________
> Subject: RE: [RML] Disease
> Author: MIME:gfinsen at brs.schneider.com.au at INTERNET-MAIL
> Date: 2/10/98 11:35 AM
>
>
> I have recently aquired some plants (Crypts) that came out of a tank
> with what I suspect are TB infected rainbowfish. Does anybody out in
> RML land have a procedure to sterilise plants of TB and/or other
> infectious nasties.
>
> I was thinking of using diluted liquid pool chlorine and "dipping" the
>
> plants into it, and into fresh tap water several times.
>
> Any ideas would be most appriciated.
>
> Many Tanks
> G
>
> > ----------
> > From: Bruce Hansen[SMTP:bhansen at ozemail.com.au]
> > Reply To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> > Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 1998 8:39
> > To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> > Subject: Re: [RML] Disease
> >
> > I'm not sure that 2 weeks is long eenough to get the TB to be
> evident
> > -
> > probably it is only long enough to stress the previously latent TB
> > into
> > activity and then it will take a few weeks to really crank up
> >
> > Then I guess it depends how stressed they were and how long it took
> to
> > batter their way through from breeder to wholesaler and holding
> before
> > shipping out.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bruce.
> >
> > Bruce Hansen, ANGFA, caring for our aquatic ecosystems.
> >
> > Please visit us at http://www.ozemail.com.au/~fisher/angfa.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------
> > > From: Adrian R. Tappin <atappin at ecn.net.au>
> > > To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> > > Subject: Re: [RML] Disease
> > > Date: Tuesday, 10 February 1998 5:46
> > >
> > > At 19:22 8/02/98 -0500, Denise wrote:
> > > >Yes, DVM is Doctor of Veterinary Medicine and I work for a
> tropical
> > fish
> > > >wholesaler in the U.S.
> > > >
> > > >_Mycobacterium_ is widely spread here too among many tropical
> > fishes and
> > > >others. There was an incident last summer in which a red drum
> > re-stocking
> > > >program had a small percentage of fish infected with
> > mycobacteriosis.
> > The
> > > >media had a field day intimating that there was a significant
> > chance for
> > > >human infection from such a disease. Not that it can't happen,
> for
> > it
> > can,
> > > >though the zoonotic potential is quite low. Those of us in the
> > business
> > now
> > > >use the term nontuberculous mycobacteriosis instead of "fish TB."
>
> > >
> > > All live fish coming into Australia have to go through a 2 week
> > quarantine
> > > period. However according to a reliable source many of these fish
> > are
> > coming
> > > out of these quarantine establishments grossly infected with
> > mycobacteria. A
> > > percentage of them die in the retailers tanks and the rest are
> sold
> > to
> > the
> > > unsuspecting public. I would hazard a guess that if samples were
> > taken
> > from
> > > retail pet stores that most of them would return a positive test
> for
> > > mycobacteria.
> > >
> > > Adrian.
> > >
> > ...............................................................
> > > Adrian R. Tappin
> > > "Home of the Rainbowfish"
> > > http://www.ecn.net.au/~atappin/home.htm
> > >
> > ...............................................................
> > >
> >
>
>
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