Re: [RML] Help Please

Dennis Holmes (dhdesign at
Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:13:15 +1000

Thanks Doug
I've been reading alot about eggs.
How do you buy them?
And are there breeders on the Gold Coast?

>From: "Doug Collom" <dcollom at>
>To: <rainbowfish at>
>Subject: Re: [RML] Help Please
>Date: 24, Feb 2000 4:54 PM

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Holmes <dhdesign at>
> To: rainbowfish at <rainbowfish at>
> Date: Wednesday, 23 February 2000 21:31
> Subject: [RML] Help Please
> Hi Dennis,
> First of all websites for Australian fish. I suggest you go to
> which is the ANGFA website, of which I'm secretary.
> On that we've got links to every worthwhile native fish site. The best is
> Adrian Tappin's 'Home of the Rainbows'. Adrian is one of our committee
> members living here in Brisbane.
> Basically there are three types of rainbows around SEQ. The usual rainbow
> you find in al the rivers is Melataenia duboulayi, usually called the
> crimson spot rainbow because of the prominent pink/red dot around its
> 'ear'. Then in most clear coastal streams flowing into Moreton Bay, and
> north to Tin Can Bay, as well as some streams south to Coffs Harbour you
> will find Rhadinocentris ornatus, the 'ornate sunfish'.
> Then over the range in the western flowing streams you'll find M.
> fluviatilis, M. duboulayis cousin, which extends right down the Murray
> Darling to Victoria, although patchy in distribution.
> The rainbows are interesting in varying in colour, and sometimes shape,
> from stream to stream. Up at the top end of duboulayi distribution north
> of Bundaberg, they are predominantly yellow and green fish, although one
> lot (the most northerly, from a location we don't talk about), have white
> fins.
> Around Cooloola you get ones with very red fins, then the Mary and
> Brisbane systems have very colourful red, yellow and green striped fish,
> with fin colour variations even in different parts of those systems, In
> the Nerang there are duboulayis which are quite blue, the further south
> you get back to multi-striped fish, some with yellow fins, some red, some
> very pale.
> The Rhads are the same, with totally different coloured red fish, blue
> fish, combinations at some places, even down to some orange finned ones
> down behind Coffs Harbour.
> As well as those there are a vast range of gudgeons, purple spotted, which
> vary, empires, firetails, and many more. There are also blue-eyes,
> pseudomugil signifer being the main one about these parts, varying again
> from stream to stream, and P. mellis the honey blue - eye, which is listed
> as endangered, although they breed like rabbits, and we have heaps in
> captivity. Besides those there are various catfish, and the larger species
> like bass, estuary perch, eastern cod, Murray cod, yellowbelly, snub nosed
> gar, jungle perch etc.
> All in all a smorgasbord.
> When you get into it you'll also find many more species of rainbows in
> particular around he country, with again wide variations in colours
> between different streams. Above the duboulayis, from about Gladstone
> north for instance you get the M. splendida rainbows, a more slender
> streamlined fish , with many different variations which would have you
> believe that they are not the same species.
> However you are warned, taking an interest in these matters is addictive,
> can be habit forming, costly to the pocket, and a health hazard,
> particularly from neglected spouses..
> On the subject of reference material, we are unfortunately at one of those
> times when all the existing good ones are out of print. Actually after
> enquiries from yourself and others, I raised this point at a ANGFA
> committee meeting last Friday night, and we began to think about doing
> our own to ride us through times such as this. But that of course will
> take time.
> Buying yourself sufficient ink cartridges to print out all of Adrian
> Tappin's web site would be an excellent start.
> There is a book by Ray Leggett (again one of us) and John Merrick, which
> is out of print, but we have found that a few of the original print run
> may be left, and are trying to get hold of them.
> Several books by Dr Gerry Allen, the guru of native fish identification
> and classification, are around. You'll find them rare in second hand book
> shops, and probably at inflated prices. I was talking to Gerry Allen a
> couple of months back, and he's finishing off a new book, which could be
> out later this year. There is also a book by John Merrick and Gunther
> Schmida, brought out about ten years ago, which we know as the 'blue
> bible'. You'd be extremely lucky to find one of those!
> So websites are probably your best bet at the moment, as well as haunting
> second hand bookshops. Incidentally that 2nd hand bookshop on the east
> side of the main drag down about Mermaid Beach sometimes gets interesting
> stuff in.
> How many tanks have you got at this point? A good few less than you'll
> have soon I would guess.
> Happy hunting
> Doug