I have always been confused why someone will buy shit fish from a store but
wont but good fish that are often half as much.
I do what I can for the hobby but it does cost a fair amount. I get a lot
of enjoyment out of it but I am not going to give it away when it is a very
costly venture and a TON of work. I did my part by making it available.
Where else are you going to get fish of this quality and genetic stability?
The fish I bring back should, and I have preached this before, be the
foundation for any species maintenance program because of the good genetic
diversity. But due to some politics and ego problems it doesn't happen. I
dont care really, I have done my part and I have some FANTASTIC fish in my
tanks that I am very proud of. Each and every one has a different story and
reminds me of my trip every time I look at them. Why I was looking at my
conniea last night and they reminded me of Good old Adrian squeezing
himself in that new little car of his and he couldn't figure out what any
of the buttons did. One minute wipers next heat then AC then blinkers... I
am just glad he didn't find the EJECT button!!! :-) I dont plan on loosing
anything but it does happen. I know where they live and someday I may have
them back but I dont worry about it. Like I said, I have done my part and
the sales is the way I pay for the shipping of getting them here. As far as
trading... What the hell do I trade for????? What is out there that I dont
have or decided not to keep anymore. Somewhere it is chiseled in stone that
roy has introduced somewheres around 70-80 different rainbowfish into the
US. I cant keep them all nor do I try but after I send out 50 or so to 6
or 8 different folks then it is not my responsibility to keep them going.
It ended there. I encourage trading as much as possible and hope it takes
place. That is the only way Hunters creek inornatas will be here for future
hobbyists to enjoy!
Some will make it and some wont. That is just the way it is.
Roy Hunter
Co-Chairman
ANGFA of North America
visit the ANGFA website at:
http://www.angfa.org
reach me at:
roy at angfa.org
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> From: chris drew <seegeedrew at hotmail.com>
> To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> Subject: Re: [RML] wish list
> Date: Thursday, September 11, 1997 8:27 AM
>
> I know Mach knows who has the Kiunga but for the rest of you I did
> not mean to imply that Roy has this fish. He does NOT!
>
> However the Rooster did say that he'd been getting the fish he did
> have, out to the people "out there" but now he says I'm asking "them"
> through my wish list, for stuff that only HE has! ;-)
>
> So Roy boy are these fish "out there" or not?! I was hoping to get
> people
> a little more involved here by actively trading. Besides you and I there
> are only 4 or 5 other people who even offer fish or eggs for trade etc.
>
> There are 100= people in ANGFA NA and 300+ in the RSG. So the people
> that are trading and selling represents about 2.5% of the membership.
> Can't we do better than that? I think we'll have to, if we want any
> significant
> portion of the species we currently have to be around in two or three
> years.
>
> That being the case it is vitally important that the folks who are doing
> the breeding and trading etc
> get the new species into their hands. I think it would be of great
> benefit to
> ANGFA NA and the RSG to subsidize these people. Afterall you can't
> expect
> everyone to be like Roy and trip off to OZ every year. And Roy has to
> pay for all that out of his pocket. And no one can afford to buy ALL the
> things
> that are available. But no one besides this small circle is breeding and
> distributing the
> fish. Perhaps ANGFA and the RSG could mass purchase the fish and
> put them in the breeders hands who in turn could produce and distribute
> the fish at a lower price to the rest of the membership.
>
> This started out as a tongue in cheek shot at Roy but I kind of like the
> idea now!!
>
> So Roy and Gary before you "knee jerk" to this idea give it some
> thought.
> It would be a nice reward for the folks who have been working hard to
> keep the species going. No doubt I would benefit from this idea but
> tell me what you think.
>
> G.maculosus is a great example. Who do you know that has this fish?
> How well has it been distributed? NOT At ALL! Why?
>
>
>
> >From rainbowfish-owner at pcug.org.au Wed Sep 10 20:22:44 1997
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> >From: Mach Fukada <tuhoitc at aloha.net>
> >Subject: Re: [RML] wish list
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> >
> >Great Scott Roy,
> > You mean you have K.ballochi and have been holding out on us all
> >this time???
> >;-p
> >
> >MTF
> >
> >>I like how he lists things that only I have. :-) Is this a hint?? :-)
> :-)
> >>:-)
> >>
> >>Roy Hunter
> >>Co-Chairman
> >>ANGFA of North America
> >>visit the ANGFA website at:
> >>http://www.angfa.org
> >>reach me at:
> >>roy at angfa.org
> >>
> >>----------
> >>> From: chris drew <seegeedrew at hotmail.com>
> >>> To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> >>> Subject: [RML] wish list
> >>> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 1997 7:18 PM
> >>>
> >>> Roy Hunter recently noted that it would be up to all those
> fishkeepers
> >>> that had bought fish from him to propagate the various species and
> >>> spread them
> >>> around. I'm doing my part in this effort and if I could afford to
> buy
> >>> anymore fish
> >>> from Roy I would do so. But I can't. I can however TRADE for this or
> >>> that.
> >>>
> >>> Below is a WISH list of species that I am after. Anyone out there
> who
> >>> lives in NA is kindly asked to contact me to see if we can work
> >>> something
> >>> out. Th list is not in any particular order of priority. Eggs or
> >>> juveniles
> >>> whatever is available. My friend and I keep 30+ species of 'bows
> etc.
> >>>
> >>> Harvey's Crk Signifer - eggs from the WILD fish please. I have a
> colony
> >>> that I'd like to bolster with new blood
> >>>
> >>> Robin's Falls Nigrans
> >>> Rhadincentrus Ornatus
> >>> M.affinis Pagwi
> >>> M.spl australis - Kambalgie Crk.
> >>> M.spl - Wallaby Crk.
> >>> P.signifer - eggs from the WILD fish please!!!
> >>> C.stramineus
> >>> C."mamberano" - looking for juveniles
> >>> K.ballochi - they are out there! How do we get them? I'm working on
> it
> >>> but if you have any ideas.....
> >>>
> >>> I hope hear from a bunch of you guys and gals.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> C.G.Drew
> >>>
> >>> email: seegeedrew at hotmail.com
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