Re: [RML] Glossolepis pseudoincisus, Millenium or Tami River
Gary Lange (rainbowfish4u2 at yahoo.com)
Wed, 9 Nov 2005 11:02:58 -0800 (PST)
I forgot last night to check this out when I was home, where the books are. First, Harro is right on the spelling, but Heiko in his Jan/Feb/March 2002? article in TFH misspelled it. He was the first to rediscover this fish in late december/early january 2001. Remember, the Millennium didn't really start until Jan 1st, 2001, (not 2000) therefore he labeled it the millennium rainbowfish. Ifaten is the way he had it in his first article, then the article that followed the next month contained the correct spelling. The website that you talked about. The firsh there are ultimately provided by Kent Webster. The fellow on Aquabid, Tanner, gets his fish directly from Kent so you don't have to worry about any goof-ups or crosses. Kent just doesn't have time to deal retail. Kent and I made the original purchase of milleniums, plus several other rainbowfish from Heiko and became the exclusive distributers here in the US, at least for the first year or so.
Tami river or Ifanten rainbowfish. This is where I needed my books. If I remember correctly it was collected in 54 and then stuffed on a shelf until Gerry Allen pulled it out in the early 80's and decided it was indeed different than the fish in lake sentani. He had to go by what was on the description and I think it said it was collected from an Oxbow lake near the Tami River, which is an outflow of lake Sentani. That is quite an outflow by the way. I didn't get to see how it exactly flows out of the lake but observed from a bridge perhaps a half mile around a bend. It's probably 200 feet or more across and flows very swiftly. So, since it was supposed to be from an oxbow from the Tami river where the pseudoincisus was found Allen dubbed it "The Tami river rainbowfish". Unless we find an oxbow with pseudoincisus in it the common name of Tami river rainbowfish really should not be used. Too bad they didn't have GPS back in '54!
Now where Heiko actually found his fish was in a crater lake. I'm going to have to look at some maps to see exactly how far away it is from Tami river, but it supposedly wasn't an Oxbow but one of the numerous crater lakes in the area. We drove toward Ifanten after we passed over the Tami river but then ended up not going there as the roads were too bad now for two wheel drive cars like we were in. Instead we stopped to talked to some guy sitting on the side of the road who told us he knew of a similiar lake. So he hops in with his machete (yeah, we picked up a stranger with a really big knife) and we proceed to drive for something like an hour until we finally got the car stuck as we pushed our luck too far. Finally got unstuck, parked and decided to walk the rest of the way. Since it was only "5 minutes by motorcycle" from where we parked we decided it was a fine day for a hike. I don't even think Evil Kinevel could have taken that stretch of road that we walked in five
minutes! So several hours later our new guide announces that the lake is that way. Never would have found it without him! We also found what really looked like pseudoincisus in that crater lake. I'm pretty sure it was a crater lake and not an oxbow cause it seemed like we had to do a good amount of uphill at the end. Without an good look from overhead though we really don't know how far we were from the Tami river. We do have GPS points though so eventually we hope to put that all in place.
Rainbowfish cross breeding, your second question. All rainbowfish can and will cross breed, including boesemani and pseudoincisus. Just don't keep any of the fry, make sure that are destroyed if some happen to survive. You can easily tell the difference between the two species so you can separate the fish if you ever want to breed them.
cheers,
gary lange
rainbowfish4u2 at yahoo.com
Eileen Kortright <eileen at spamcop.net> wrote:
I'm trying to find information on Glossolepis pseudoincisus. Some
sources gives the common name as Millenium Rainbow Fish and a couple
give the source of Tami River Rainbow Fish. I've found no sites that
list both names as commons. They also have different lake sources,
the ones that list it as the Tami River have the same lake source as
Glossolepis incisus, Lake Sentani, discovery 1954. The ones that
list it as the Millenium Rainbow have Lake Ifaten discovery 2002.
I've done some searching of this list and can find no entries for
Lake Ifaten.
This fish is for sale at That Fish Shop,
http://www.thatfishshop.com/product505.html,
Are they the same fish or no? The Millenium isn't some sort of
hybrid, is it?
If you have information on this Rainbow specie's aquaria keeping,
please let me know. I really really really want some of them :)
Much thanks,
Eileen
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