Re: [RML] australis "Drysdale"

Roy Hunter (roy at angfa.org)
Fri, 23 May 1997 21:33:04 -0600

When I went to John Coats (sp) to get the drysdales I brought back he Had a
good mix of them and they were bred in Melbourne tap water which is about
20 PPM hardness so the hardness thing is out and the tanks were not heated
so I think temp could be ruled out as well.

Roy Hunter
Co-Chairman
ANGFA of North America
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roy at angfa.org

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> From: Gary Lange <gwlange at stlnet.com>
> To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> Subject: Re: [RML] australis "Drysdale"
> Date: Friday, May 23, 1997 7:17 PM
>
> The fish that was distributed thru Ekkwill as 8 lined red tailed, at
> one time was an australis that Heiko sold to them. Since he never
> bothered to tell anyone about the exact location where he collect the
> fish it is a mystery. they are indeed thicker bodied that the
> Drysdales that we obtained through Ron. They almost looked splendida
> in size and shape. In some ways that fish is brighter in color than
> the Drysdales that we had obtained through Ron Bowman. I have, over
> the years obtained some 16 fish that grew up that were all males,
> except for one female that refuses to lay even a single egg, and is
> very sorry looking. Our RSG editor, Kevin Hosmer also grew some
> dozen of these fish without producing a single female. I think that
> perhaps this particular fish needs to be raised in water that is much
> harder than my water (125 ppm or at least higher in pH) to produce
> acceptable sex ratios. In the past there has been a "trend" for more
> males to be produced in water that isn't quite so hard, that is that
> tends to go acid easier and for more females to be produced from
> water that is more alkaline, and perhaps harder. Whether this
> "trend" is real or just imagined really remains to be proven,
> hopefully with some proper controls. The cichlid people for years
> have lived in a fantasy world believing that Apisto spawns had their
> sex ratios greatly affectly by the pH of when the fry were conceived.
> A german, Uwe Romer, pretty well shattered that theory when he
> showed that the single most important factor was instead temperature.
> Hopefully we won't settle into any of these myths of our own but
> keep them out their as "theories" until proven otherwise.
>
> Gary Lange
> gwlange at STLNET.com
> Rainbowfish Study Group of North America
> http://home.stlnet.com/~gwlange/rainbowfish.index.html
> Convention info at: http://www.sfaquarium.org
>
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> From: Jack W. Betz <Jack_Betz at msn.com>
> To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> Subject: [RML] australis "Drysdale"
> Date: Friday, May 23, 1997 2:53 PM
>
> Roy, et al,
> I guess the drysdale-like fish I have must be one of them there
> Florida
> mongrels. They were one of the first bows I found at a local fish
> shop about 3
> years ago. The commercial name was " 8 Lined Red Tail Rainbows ". M.
> s.
> australis "Drysdale" photo on cover of "Best of RSG" is very, very
> close to
> what they looked like when I first got them, but now they have more
> intense
> blue on backs with more distinct belly stripes, and solid red tails.
> They do
> show some morphological differences within spawns, sometimes
> strangely
> parkinsoni-ish, and I have been selecting for bright blue backs with
> solid red
> tails. Just my own personal project ya know.
>
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> From: owner-rainbowfish at pcug.org.au on behalf of Roy Hunter
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 1997 9:27 AM
> To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> Subject: Re: [RML] scavengers (fish)
>
> Jack, from What Gary has told me there were never both sexes of the
> Drysdale river australis in the country, they just "looked" like
> them.
> I had seen the ones going around as the drysdales and they didn't
> look
> anything like the fish I brought back that I received from the man
> who
> collected them originally.
>
> Roy Hunter
> Co-Chairman
> ANGFA of North America
> visit the ANGFA website at:
> http://www.angfa.org
> reach me at:
> roy at angfa.org
>
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> > From: Jack W. Betz <Jack_Betz at msn.com>
> > To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> > Subject: RE: [RML] scavengers (fish)
> > Date: Thursday, May 22, 1997 7:19 PM
> >
> > Jim,
> > My G. incisus were always good bottom feeders, when I had them.
> Also M.
> > splendida australis "Drysdale River" will pick the bottom alot.
> >
> > Jack