RE: [RML] Re: ugh!!! Home of the Rainbowfish has disappeared!

Chris (marinesci at verizon.net)
Sat, 04 Jun 2005 12:37:59 -0400

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Hello All,

I have the ear of the aquatics editor at TFH Publications (am currently
writing two books for them) and have provided him with the e-mail address
for Adrian Tappin from his website, in the hopes that he's willing to write
an authoritative book on the subject. No update as of yet as to whether he
was able to reach Adrian, but I will check Monday morning and post the
progress here. Keep your fingers crossed, and if someone does have updated
contact information for Adrian, please send it my way!

Kindest regards,

Chris Brightwell

(Marine Scientist for Kent Marine)

_____

From: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com [r_m_l at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Ray
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 12:32 PM
To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RML] Re: ugh!!! Home of the Rainbowfish has disappeared!

Scott & Peter:

You are both absolutely correct. And, BTW I just found the CD-ROM
you mentioned Scott in an earlier version of Adrian's Website in the
AU Web archive: Pandora. What a wonderful national resource!

Thank you to both Peter and Brad for this new link! I just added a
link in the newsgroup to the AU Website archive using their
authortative reference URL.

--TommyBoy

--- In r_m_l at yahoogroups.com, Scott Davis <unclescott at p...> wrote:
> I'm on the road and can't check, but "they" put out a terrific
Rainbowfish CD a couple of years ago. It certainly had photos by some
of the same great photographers as are shown on the Home of the
Rainbowfish site.
>
> One of our brethern from Oz (when they get up) will have to give
details and whether that disk is still for sale. It took a while in
the mail, but got here and is treasured.
>
> All the best!
> Scott
>
> Tom Ray <t_a_ray_cissp at y...> wrote:
> I agree.
>
> IF anyone has Adrian Tappin's email address, snailmail address,
etc.
> contact data, I would think this newsgroup, one of the hobby
> associations, or even an individual hobbiest might contact Adrian
> about his content and about the possibility /logistics of hosting
or
> issuing a CD-ROM with an appropriate and mutually agreed form of
> compensation, as warranted.
>
> Besides, I don't think anyone said anything about, implied (nor
> considered anyone inferring) illegal reposting, copyright
> enfringement or unethical behavior. I (and I believe Kevin) were
more
> surprised and disappointed by the loss of Adrian's great content
and
> maybe even intent on preserving it (as is or in some other form).
>
> I can easily see how this group, if interested, could reverse this
> bad fortune and turn it into an opportunity to preserve this
> resource, advance the hobby, and even promote Adrian and its
efforts
> and mission. "Crisis" = "severe opportunity" doesn't it?
>
> --TommyBoy
> --- In r_m_l at yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Sheller" <kevmo at a...> wrote:
> > That's totally cool, Brad. I was just going to store it on my
local
> drive so
> > I could always have it for reference... I certainly wasn't going
to
> re-post
> > it.
> >
> > Kevin
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com [r_m_l at yahoogroups.com]On
> Behalf Of
> > Brad Jackson
> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 5:23 PM
> > To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [RML] ugh!!! Home of the Rainbowfish has
> disappeared!
> >
> >
> > Kevin
> > I'm not sure if there is any way to change the links with out
> looking at
> > the html but like I said this is a copyrighted site belonging to
> Adrian
> > Tappin. With out permission it would not be ethical to use the
site
> or any
> > part of the site. No problem if you get permission. If you want
to
> link from
> > your page just link to the archive.
> > Later
> > Angfa1
> > Brad Jackson
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kevin Sheller
> > To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:48 PM
> > Subject: RE: [RML] ugh!!! Home of the Rainbowfish has
> disappeared!
> >
> >
> > Is there any clever way to download the entire site with
links
> intact? I
> > just tried to download a few pages at a time, and the internal
> links are
> > hardcoded to return you to the archive site...
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Kevmo
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com [r_m_l at yahoogroups.com]
On
> Behalf Of
> > Brad Jackson
> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:28 PM
> > To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [RML] ugh!!! Home of the Rainbowfish has
> disappeared!
> >
> >
> > Tom
> > The website that I think you are refering to is archived
> and can be
> > downloaded from Pandora Australia web archive at this address
> > http://pandora.nla.gov.au/nla.arc-21803 . Yes this is a shame
> Adrian's site
> > is gone. Remember all of the content on that site is the property
> of Adrian
> > Tappin and could only be used permission. We must all remember to
> respect
> > owners right to their work.
> > Later
> > Angfa1
> > Brad Jackson
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tom Ray
> > To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 12:19 PM
> > Subject: [RML] ugh!!! Home of the Rainbowfish has
> disappeared!
> >
> >
> > Alas! ...alack!! ...allay!!! Another great website seems
> to have
> > died/disappeared. My bookmark gives me a "404" and so
too
> does the
> > link from here. Does anyone have a defintive word on the
> fate
> > and/ot
> > future of this resource? Anyone know what happened to
all
> its
> > webpages or how we could collect them (maybe with an eye
> towards
> > resurrecting the site)?
> >
> > --TommyBoy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

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Hello All,<o:p></o:p>

I have the ear of the aquatics editor at
TFH Publications (am currently writing two books for them) and have provided
him with the e-mail address for Adrian Tappin from his website, in the hopes
that he’s willing to write an authoritative book on the subject.  No
update as of yet as to whether he was able to reach <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Adrian</st1:place></st1:City>, but I will check Monday morning and
post the progress here.  Keep your fingers crossed, and if someone does have updated contact information for <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Adrian</st1:place></st1:City>, please send it my
way!<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

Kindest regards,<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

Chris Brightwell<o:p></o:p>

(Marine Scientist for Kent Marine)<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

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From:
r_m_l at yahoogroups.com [r_m_l at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Ray 
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005
12:32 PM 
To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [RML] Re: ugh!!! Home
of the Rainbowfish has disappeared!<o:p></o:p>

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<o:p> </o:p>

<tt>Scott & Peter:</tt> 
 
<tt>You are both absolutely correct.  And, BTW I
just found the CD-ROM </tt> 
<tt>you mentioned Scott in an earlier version of <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Adrian</st1:place></st1:City>'s Website in the </tt> 
<tt>AU Web archive: Pandora.  What a wonderful
national resource!  </tt> 
 
<tt>Thank you to both Peter and Brad for this new
link!  I just added a </tt> 
<tt>link in the newsgroup to the AU Website archive
using their </tt> 
<tt>authortative reference URL.</tt> 
 
<tt>--TommyBoy</tt> 
 
<tt>--- In r_m_l at yahoogroups.com, Scott Davis
<unclescott at p...> wrote:</tt> 
<tt>> I'm on the road and can't check, but
"they" put out a terrific </tt> 
<tt>Rainbowfish CD a couple of years ago. It certainly
had photos by some </tt> 
<tt>of the same great photographers as are shown on
the Home of the </tt> 
<tt>Rainbowfish site.</tt> 
<tt>>  </tt> 
<tt>> One of our brethern from Oz (when they get
up) will have to give </tt> 
<tt>details and whether that disk is still for sale.
It took a while in </tt> 
<tt>the mail, but got here and is treasured.</tt> 
<tt>> </tt> 
<tt>> All the best!</tt> 
<tt>> Scott</tt> 
<tt>> </tt> 
<tt>> Tom Ray <t_a_ray_cissp at y...> wrote:</tt> 
<tt>> I agree.  </tt> 
<tt>> </tt> 
<tt>> IF anyone has Adrian Tappin's email address,
snailmail address, </tt> 
<tt>etc. </tt> 
<tt>> contact data, I would think this newsgroup,
one of the hobby </tt> 
<tt>> associations, or even an individual hobbiest
might contact <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Adrian</st1:place></st1:City>
</tt> 
<tt>> about his content and about the possibility
/logistics of hosting </tt> 
<tt>or </tt> 
<tt>> issuing a CD-ROM with an appropriate and
mutually agreed form of </tt> 
<tt>> compensation, as warranted.</tt> 
<tt>> </tt> 
<tt>> Besides, I don't think anyone said anything
about, implied (nor </tt> 
<tt>> considered anyone inferring) illegal
reposting, copyright </tt> 
<tt>> enfringement or unethical behavior. I (and I
believe Kevin) were </tt> 
<tt>more </tt> 
<tt>> surprised and disappointed by the loss of <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Adrian</st1:place></st1:City>'s great content </tt> 
<tt>and </tt> 
<tt>> maybe even intent on preserving it (as is or
in some other form).</tt> 
<tt>> </tt> 
<tt>> I can easily see how this group, if
interested, could reverse this </tt> 
<tt>> bad fortune and turn it into an opportunity
to preserve this </tt> 
<tt>> resource, advance the hobby, and even promote
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Adrian</st1:place></st1:City> and its </tt> 
<tt>efforts </tt> 
<tt>> and mission.  "Crisis" =
"severe opportunity" doesn't it?</tt> 
<tt>> </tt> 
<tt>> --TommyBoy</tt> 
<tt>> --- In r_m_l at yahoogroups.com, "Kevin
Sheller" <kevmo at a...> wrote:</tt> 
<tt>> > That's totally cool, Brad. I was just
going to store it on my </tt> 
<tt>local </tt> 
<tt>> drive so</tt> 
<tt>> > I could always have it for reference...
I certainly wasn't going </tt> 
<tt>to </tt> 
<tt>> re-post</tt> 
<tt>> > it.</tt> 
<tt>> > </tt> 
<tt>> > Kevin</tt> 
<tt>> >   -----Original Message-----</tt> 
<tt>> >   From: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com
[r_m_l at yahoogroups.com]On </tt> 
<tt>> Behalf Of</tt> 
<tt>> > Brad Jackson</tt> 
<tt>> >   Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005
5:23 PM</tt> 
<tt>> >   To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com</tt> 
<tt>> >   Subject: Re: [RML] ugh!!!
Home of the Rainbowfish has </tt> 
<tt>> disappeared!</tt> 
<tt>> > </tt> 
<tt>> > </tt> 
<tt>> >   Kevin</tt> 
<tt>> >     I'm not sure if
there is any way to change the links with out </tt> 
<tt>> looking at</tt> 
<tt>> > the html but like I said this is a
copyrighted site belonging to </tt> 
<tt>> <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Adrian</st1:place></st1:City></tt> 
<tt>> > Tappin. With out permission it would not
be ethical to use the </tt> 
<tt>site </tt> 
<tt>> or any</tt> 
<tt>> > part of the site. No problem if you get
permission. If you want </tt> 
<tt>to </tt> 
<tt>> link from</tt> 
<tt>> > your page just link to the archive.</tt> 
<tt>> >   Later</tt> 
<tt>> >   Angfa1</tt> 
<tt>> >   Brad Jackson</tt> 
<tt>> >     ----- Original
Message -----</tt> 
<tt>> >     From: Kevin
Sheller</tt> 
<tt>> >     To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com</tt> 
<tt>> >     Sent: Friday,
June 03, 2005 3:48 PM</tt> 
<tt>> >     Subject: RE:
[RML] ugh!!! Home of the Rainbowfish has </tt> 
<tt>> disappeared!</tt> 
<tt>> > </tt> 
<tt>> > </tt> 
<tt>> >     Is there any
clever way to download the entire site with </tt> 
<tt>links </tt> 
<tt>> intact? I</tt> 
<tt>> > just tried to download a few pages at a
time, and the internal </tt> 
<tt>> links are</tt> 
<tt>> > hardcoded to return you to the archive
site...</tt> 
<tt>> > </tt> 
<tt>> >     Thanks!</tt> 
<tt>> >     Kevmo</tt> 
<tt>> >      
-----Original Message-----</tt> 
<tt>> >      
From: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com [r_m_l at yahoogroups.com]</tt> 
<tt>On </tt> 
<tt>> Behalf Of</tt> 
<tt>> > Brad Jackson</tt> 
<tt>> >      
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:28 PM</tt> 
<tt>> >       To:
r_m_l at yahoogroups.com</tt> 
<tt>> >      
Subject: Re: [RML] ugh!!! Home of the Rainbowfish has </tt> 
<tt>> disappeared!</tt> 
<tt>> > </tt> 
<tt>> > </tt> 
<tt>> >       Tom</tt> 
<tt>>
>         The website that I think
you are refering to is archived </tt> 
<tt>> and can be</tt> 
<tt>> > downloaded from Pandora <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region> web
archive at this address</tt> 
<tt>> > <a
href="http://pandora.nla.gov.au/nla.arc-21803">http://pandora.nla.gov.au/nla.arc-21803</a>
. Yes this is a shame </tt> 
<tt>> <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Adrian</st1:place></st1:City>'s
site</tt> 
<tt>> > is gone. Remember all of the content on
that site is the property </tt> 
<tt>> of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Adrian</st1:place></st1:City></tt> 
<tt>> > Tappin and could only be used
permission. We must all remember to </tt> 
<tt>> respect</tt> 
<tt>> > owners right to their work.</tt> 
<tt>> >      
Later</tt> 
<tt>> >      
Angfa1</tt> 
<tt>> >       Brad
Jackson</tt> 
<tt>>
>         ----- Original Message
-----</tt> 
<tt>>
>         From: Tom Ray</tt> 
<tt>>
>         To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com</tt> 
<tt>>
>         Sent: Friday, June 03,
2005 12:19 PM</tt> 
<tt>>
>         Subject: [RML] ugh!!!
Home of the Rainbowfish has </tt> 
<tt>> disappeared!</tt> 
<tt>> > </tt> 
<tt>> > </tt> 
<tt>>
>         Alas! ...alack!!
...allay!!!  Another great website seems </tt> 
<tt>> to have</tt> 
<tt>>
>         died/disappeared.  My
bookmark gives me a "404" and so </tt> 
<tt>too </tt> 
<tt>> does the</tt> 
<tt>>
>         link from here.  Does
anyone have a defintive word on the </tt> 
<tt>> fate</tt> 
<tt>> > and/ot</tt> 
<tt>>
>         future of this
resource?  Anyone know what happened to </tt> 
<tt>all </tt> 
<tt>> its</tt> 
<tt>>
>         webpages or how we could
collect them (maybe with an eye </tt> 
<tt>> towards</tt> 
<tt>>
>         resurrecting the site)?</tt> 
<tt>> > </tt> 
<tt>>
>         --TommyBoy</tt> 
<tt>> > </tt> 
<tt>> > </tt> 
<tt><o:p></o:p></tt>

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