As for complaints being addressed to Mr Collums attention, (huh) this WAS
done at a past Conference, the outcome was the promise of a new one in
approx 12 months, from memory that was 3? yrs ago???????????
I personally don't give a flying fuck about a constitution either. However
the questiones were put by our members.
I believe what you propose, Mr Hansen, is *the* answer. I look forward to
placing a new copy infront of our members.
Cheers
Merlin
At 14:16 7/02/98 +1000, you wrote:
>Merlin's morbid preoccupation with constitutional matters is touching - the
>trouble with the bloody things (constitutions that is) is that everybody
>ignores them until there is a problem and then wants the constitution
>instantly fixed to deal with the problem in hand. Or as is often the case,
>the theoretical problem that could possibly occur if scenario A is
>superimposed on situation B and we try to implement solution C as per the
>constitution ;-)
>
>As part of Incorporation requirements a constitution is needed and the
>previous committee felt that they needed to adopt one from another
>organisation that had some similar aims to ours and the result is what we
>have and no-one seems to be happy with it despite the fact that it is
>hardly ever referred to (except dismissively) or needed by the membership.
>
>My own preference is for us to cancel the previous opne and substitute the
>model one that is suggested when incorporating and run the club on a set of
>by-laws that can be altered as needed without the legal and expensive
>procedures required for registering constitutional changes.
>
>Doug, no matter how substantial he may appear to outsiders is only one man
>and does a great job as secretary for ANGFA (National) as well as ANGFA
>(Queensland) as well as the Conference sub-committee. He produces excellent
>minutes, often with little "extras" for those attuned to his
>"tongue-in-cheek" humour and gets through a power of work each month.I
>personally don't give a rat's ---- if the constitution never gets revamped
>because there will always be nit-pickers looking for some minor problem or
>having some nuisance little whine and the constitution gives them a little
>area away from the meaningful parts of the club to exercise their special
>talents.
>
>As I said in a recent post, if constructive criticism is felt necessary on
>the constitution, please send your comments and your suggested solution to
>our Secretary, the same esteemed Doug Collom and they will get the
>consideration they warrant !!!!
>
>Regards,
>Bruce.
>
>Bruce Hansen, ANGFA, caring for our aquatic ecosystems.
>
>Please visit us at http://www.ozemail.com.au/~fisher/angfa.htm
>
>
>
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>> From: Merlin <merlin at orac.net.au>
>> To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
>> Subject: [RML] Re: (SPAM) Constitution (could be broken promises) :)
>> Date: Wednesday, 4 February 1998 10:14
>>
>> Well Doc, I seem to have vague recollections of the constitution coming
>in
>> for some comment at a not too distant, past convention. Is this the same
>> Doug Collom we are talking about that was (along with National Executive)
>> gonna have a new constitution ready for approval in approx. 12 months
>from
>> that date?
>>
>> The Melborne Zoo constitution was hardly written for the benefit of
>ANGFA,
>> the hoary old chestnut re regional groups and the laws? (joke) of the
>> constitution still remain...
>>
>> And before you ask, NO I am not volunteering for the job :) it's a
>National
>> responosibility...<g>
>>
>> Merlin jumps off soap box and says
>> Cheers. :)
>>
>> On Fri Feb 6 01:19:28 1998 Doc wrote:
>>
>> The current constitution is the same as whichever one was adopted
>whenever
>> it was ;-)
>>
>> The current committee was in the sh-t enough without doing anything to
>the
>> "sacred cow" that purported to be a constitution.
>>
>> Any written suggestions on alterations to the constitution will be duly
>> considered - please address them to Doug Collom either by email or "
>>
>>
>> At 22:16 6/02/98 +1000, Doc also wrote:
>> >Andrew -
>> >
>> >I have yet to hear anyone have a reasonable conversation on a
>constitution
>> >;-)
>> >
>> >You only have to listen to bits of the "talkfest": that is going on
>between
>> >The Monarchists and the Republicans at the moment to realise this is so
>;-)
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >Bruce.
>>
>>
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>> merlin at mail.orac.net.au
>>
>> http://www.orac.net.au/~merlin
>>
>> "I am a stag of seven tines;
>> I am a wide flood on a plain;
>> I am a wind on the deep waters;
>> I am a shining tear of the sun;
>> I am a hawk on a cliff;
>> I am fair among flowers;
>> I am a God who sets the head afire with smoke."
>
>
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http://www.orac.net.au/~merlin
"I am a stag of seven tines;
I am a wide flood on a plain;
I am a wind on the deep waters;
I am a shining tear of the sun;
I am a hawk on a cliff;
I am fair among flowers;
I am a God who sets the head afire with smoke."