Re: [RML] bogus diet

Roy Hunter (rainbows01 at sprynet.com)
Mon, 17 Feb 1997 08:14:03 -0700

The ANGFA auctions from what I saw were a lot better with rainbowfish than
what you see here in the states. The problems were with common names, not
bad fish. Although I think Heinz Staude had some fish that were a little on
the strange side of the coin....

Roy Hunter
Co-Chairman
ANGFA of North America
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> From: Christopher Philip Benes <beneschr at pilot.msu.edu>
> To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> Subject: Re: [RML] bogus diet
> Date: Monday, February 17, 1997 2:20 AM
>
> > made along the way but at least in the hobby as opposed to the
commercial
> > side of things I can see a tendency for hobbyists to prefer to get
their
> > stock from other breeders and auctions because they feel that the fish
they
> > obtain will breed better, are of better quality an d will live longer.
No
> > wonder some of the commercial breeders of native aquarium fish are
trying
> > to shut us down with red tape :-)
> >
> >
> > Bruce Hansen
> > ANGFA
> >
> > email: bhansen at ozemail.com.au
> > Don't miss the ANGFA web pages at -
> > http://www.ozemail.com.au/~fisher/angfa.htm
> >
> >
> Quite honestly, I used to think that it was better to get fish from
auctions,
> but now I'm not so sure. I have seen so many fish sold at auctions that
should
> have been culls that it disgusts me. Fish with missing gill plates, fish
with
> deformed jaws, the list goes on and on. I've also seen fish that are
just
> hybrid messes sold too (and incident involving 'C. campsi' comes to
mind).
> Heck, I've even seen M. splendida inornata sold as C. campsi at an
auction. On
> top of that, some fish that you see at an auction come to you this way:
ten
> years ago somebody gets a pair of fish, he spawns them, keeps a pair,
spawns
> them, keeps a pair, etc... As far as the quality of genetic makeup goes,
who
> knows what you're getting. I've come to believe that the only way to
make sure
> that you're getting 'good' fish is to either know the person you're
getting the
> fish from or to get wild fish. Now I know why auction rules always say
'buyer
> beware'. I would say that it is a misconception (or a dream) that all
the fish
> that you see at an auction are quality fish. Granted, we usually think
or hope
> that all the people in our aquarium clubs are responsible aquarists, but
the
> basic fact is that a lot aren't, at least here. I once heard a story
about
> someone who is generally accepted by those who know this person to be
quite
> knowledgeble, a real 'professional' aquarist. Back when female praecox
were
> seemingly impossible to find in the U.S., this person was going to cross
male
> praceox with some other female rainbow fish because heck, hopefully the
> 'praceox' gene was dominant and you'd get some female praceox out of this
mix.
> Obviously, genetics doesn't work like this. So, things are not always as
they
> seem, and you can never be too sure...
>
>
>
>
> Later...
>
> If you didn't see it, you missed it.
>
> Chris Benes
> beneschr at pilot.msu.edu
> http://www.msu.edu/user/beneschr/
>
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