Julie <><
>From: "christian_vanbelle" <christian_vanbelle at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com
>To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [RML] Re: Unknow cause of mortality
>Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:09:58 -0000
>
>
>Thanks Julie
>
>I told my frind to hold her bows in common city wate who is hard and
>alcaline.
>
>I hold mine in such water and there are no problems even if this
>water is sometimes to high on nitrate. When it is so, I change a
>part with clean rainwater. I have no disease and a normal mortality
>(3 fishes in one year on a school of 40 adults and subadults). And
>they are continuously spawning.
>
>I think my friend wants to do "too much". She tries to have a
>perfect pH, perfect hardness, perfect tanks... I think the better
>way to have beautiful fishes (not only rainbows) is to be regular
>about maintenance and water changes. The harness, pH and other are
>less important. I have hold Symphysodon on a 7.5 pH without any
>problems but I had clean water. Anyway, bows are more sensitive on
>bad conditions and it is sometimes easyer to hold big cichlids such
>as discus than some rainbowfishes. But the common point is
>regularity.
>
>So I avoid too much work on tanks because every manipulation can be
>source of stress or problems (and I think that it is a little bit
>idle too:)). And I'm not a good customer for petshop :) because I
>have no CO2 system, no HQI, no nutritive soil from the trade
>(selfmade only) and I buy my fishes only by private such as Gilbert
>Maebe, Johannes Graf or Christophe Mailliet (no dead fish from them
>for the moment; I wish to thank you, all the three, :)).
>
>Have a good week
>
>Cheers
>
>Christian
>
>
>--- In r_m_l at yahoogroups.com, "Julie Zeppieri" <bowluvr at h...> wrote:
> > Christian,
> >
> > I agree with Peter. It sounds like it is related to the new tank
>they were
> > put into. I have seen many fish die from the shock of going from a
>tank that
> > has higher pH and alkalinity into a tank with lower pH and
>alkalinity, even
> > when they were acclimated normally. Going from high to low can
>really hurt
> > fish, and it is important to take extra precautions when doing
>this.
> > Rainbows are fairly sensitive fishes, so sometimes even more care
>is needed.
> > You did not state the manner in which your friend introduced the
>new fish
> > into his tank. This information could help.
> >
> > It would be helpful to know the water parameters of Gilbert's tank
>where
> > they originally came from. Also it would help to know the rest of
>the
> > details of the water chemistry of your friend's tank, such as
>ammonia,
> > nitrite and (most important) nitrate. These might also have been
>problems
> > for your friend's fish.
> >
> > Julie <><
> >
> >
> > >From: "christian_vanbelle" <christian_vanbelle at y...>
> > >Reply-To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com
> > >To: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [RML] Unknow cause of mortality
> > >Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:58:55 -0000
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi everyone,
> > >
> > >I was going to have some fishes at Gilbert Maebe's house last
> > >saturday with some good friends. I bought a school of Melanotaenia
> > >macculochi Skull Creek (very pretty and small size). A friend of
> > >mine the same fishes from the same tank. Gilbert's fishes are very
> > >good and healthy.
> > >
> > >My friend ste them in a 120 l tank (conductivity 500 ppm, pH 7.5).
> > >After two days, one mac has a spot on his head who seems like
> > >moisture. He died one day after. Today, one fish more died
>without
> > >any traces of disease.
> > >
> > >I hold mine in common water (800 ppm, Ph more than 7.5). I have no
> > >stress and they spawn.
> > >
> > >Has someone a threat to explain the dead of the fishes in my
>friends
> > >tank ?
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >
> > >Christian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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