RE: [RML] Myco inquiry

CR Brightwell (marinesci at verizon.net)
Tue, 06 Sep 2005 16:41:28 -0400

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Sodium thiosulfate is used to neutralize chlorine, however another
ingredient is used to neutralize the ammonia. Manufacturers use different
ingredients to do this, and most are closely-guarded secrets.

Chris

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From: r_m_l at yahoogroups.com [r_m_l at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Peter Unmack
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 4:32 PM
To: rainbowfish
Subject: RE: [RML] Myco inquiry

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 fiestacranberry at webtv.net wrote:

> >Sodium thiosulfate will not break down the
> >ammonia released when chloramines are
> >split, by the way.
>
> Oh, OK---that's good to know. Really sounds like carbon is the way to
> go, then.

I've certainly never had the slightest problem using sodium thiosulphate
with ammonia over many years, nor have I ever heard of anyone having such
a problem. How does commercial chloromine/chlorine remover get rid of
ammonia? Most (all?) of them use sodium thiosulphate as their primary
ingrediant don't they? The bacteria in your filter should break any
ammonia down quite quickly since your fishes are producing ammonia all the
time. Of course, you could always add sodium thiosulphate, let the water
sit for a few minutes, then test for ammonia and see if there is any more
ammonia present than what is in water not treated with sodium
thiosulphate. My guess is that you won't detect any.

I'd say carbon has far more potential problems, like how do you know when
to change your carbon, and would be far more expensive in the long run.
In my unhumble opinion filter carbon is just another thing that people
waste their money on for virtually no benefit to the average fish keeper.

Cheers
Peter Unmack

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Sodium thiosulfate is used to neutralize
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<tt>On Tue, 6 Sep 2005
fiestacranberry at webtv.net wrote:</tt> 
 
<tt>> >Sodium thiosulfate will not break down
the</tt> 
<tt>> >ammonia released when chloramines are</tt> 
<tt>> >split, by the way.</tt> 
<tt>></tt> 
<tt>> Oh, OK---that's good to know.  Really
sounds like carbon is the way to</tt> 
<tt>> go, then.</tt> 
 
<tt>I've certainly never had the slightest problem
using sodium thiosulphate</tt> 
<tt>with ammonia over many years, nor have I ever
heard of anyone having such</tt> 
<tt>a problem.  How does commercial
chloromine/chlorine remover get rid of</tt> 
<tt>ammonia?  Most (all?) of them use sodium
thiosulphate as their primary</tt> 
<tt>ingrediant don't they?  The bacteria in your
filter should break any</tt> 
<tt>ammonia down quite quickly since your fishes are
producing ammonia all the</tt> 
<tt>time.  Of course, you could always add sodium
thiosulphate, let the water</tt> 
<tt>sit for a few minutes, then test for ammonia and
see if there is any more</tt> 
<tt>ammonia present than what is in water not treated
with sodium</tt> 
<tt>thiosulphate.  My guess is that you won't
detect any.</tt> 
 
<tt>I'd say carbon has far more potential problems,
like how do you know when</tt> 
<tt>to change your carbon, and would be far more
expensive in the long run.</tt> 
<tt>In my unhumble opinion filter carbon is just
another thing that people</tt> 
<tt>waste their money on for virtually no benefit to
the average fish keeper.</tt> 
 
<tt>Cheers</tt> 
<tt>Peter Unmack</tt> 
 
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