Re: [RML] Re: I Need Fish Now--Al Anderson warning

jazep at www.peter.unmack.net
Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:28:38 -0700 (MST)

Hmmm...

Talk about a "Holier than thou" attitude. Have you taken over running the
list then, Roy?

Julie <><
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On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Roy Hunter wrote:

> I think at this point we can take this off the list. When shipping fish you
> cant make everyone happy all the time. I have had fish get lost, everything
> arriving DOA, etc. It is the responsibility of the person ordering fish to
> inform the shipper at the time of arrival if anything is dead. Sorry but
> anything swimming sideways in my book is dead.
>
> Granted Al should have sent the money or reported the fish dead to Peter but
> I think the AL bashing has gone on long enough. Also I am a little amazed
> Gary that you would make this your business when it is between Peter and Al.
> By no means are you a saint in your shipping practices and by no means am I
> so neither of us have any right to say anything.
>
> Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
>
> I am not religious so dont take it as such but I think all of you will get
> the idea.
>
> Roy Hunter
> Co-Chairman
> ANGFA of North America
> visit the ANGFA website at:
> http://www.angfa.org
> reach me at:
> roy at angfa.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Lange <gwlange at stlnet.com>
> To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au <rainbowfish at pcug.org.au>
> Date: Monday, October 27, 1997 8:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [RML] Re: I Need Fish Now--Al Anderson warning
>
>
> >:-) Putting Al in the same category as Mark Amen is a little harsh (ok way
> >tooooo harsh), but Al you're not telling all of the story... As Peter said
> he
> >was sent email numerous times with no reply. One reply/call stated that
> your
> >wife forgot to send the check. Uh, you replied to the RML list that the
> bag
> >arrived quite wet but the fish were still alive. After several months
> Peter
> >tried to get some sort of response out of you, I even made a couple of
> phone
> >calls because this really didn't sound like the Al Andersen that I
> knew...still
> >no response. What do you expect? Like Peter said if you had let him know
> >right away you would have either gotten more fish or a bye on the amount
> due.
> >Saying something wayyyyy after the fish have been shipped only raises
> questions
> >about your motives. Wish you hadn't waited so long.
> >
> >My deserts arrived just a tad wet but all the fish were fine. The largest
> male
> >has now been incubating a ton of (100+) eggs for some 4 days. Just in case
> >those others that got gobies from Peter, it's time to use 'em (spawn em) or
> >lose 'em. They don't last a real long time but boy are they cute while
> they
> >last. Not as pretty as a rainbow... but way nicer than a cichlid :-)
> (stir,
> >stir)
> >
> >Gary Lange
> >
> >----------
> >> From: Al anderson <killiman at indy.net>
> >> To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> >> Subject: Re: [RML] Re: I Need Fish Now--Al Anderson warning
> >> Date: Monday, October 27, 1997 1:33 AM
> >>
> >> Mr Lang
> >>
> >> I Am sending the ignorant dumb jerk $50.00 cause he is a poor student not
> >> for the improperly shipped fish that arrived here in VERY BAD SHAPE
> because
> >> of your letter I wish nothing to do with that Jerk again. One out of the
> >> six lived and that is being shipped to him.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 08:02 PM 10/26/97 -0600, you wrote:
> >> >Thanks for the warning Peter. It's people that welsh on a promise that
> make
> >> >this hobby difficult. We'll make sure that everyone knows that Andersen
> >> can't
> >> >be trusted anymore to pay his bills. He's now in the same bin with that
> >> >famouse check bouncer from Chicago, Mark Amen! Most people in the
> killifish
> >> >business don't deal with him except with cash.
> >> >
> >> >Gary
> >> >
> >> >----------
> >> >> From: peter.unmack at ASU.Edu
> >> >> To: killies <killies at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> >> >> Cc: rainbowfish <rainbowfish at pcug.org.au>
> >> >> Subject: [RML] Re: I Need Fish Now--Al Anderson warning
> >> >> Date: Saturday, October 25, 1997 4:11 PM
> >> >>
> >> >> G'day folks
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, Al anderson wrote:
> >> >> > I would like to find 10 pairs of any type of funlopanchax.
> >> >> > please reply back private e-mail.
> >> >>
> >> >> I figured this would be a timely warning to folks regarding sending
> fish
> >> to
> >> >> Al Anderson if you expect financial re-embursement for them. I sold a
> >> >> bunch of desert gobies via the rainbowfish list, half a dozen of which
> >> >> went to Al. That was back in April, 1997. Despite several attempts
> by
> >> >> myself (a starving graduate student) and others no money has been
> >> >> forthcoming for the fish. Hence, wait until you get his check cashed
> >> >> before you send any fish if you really want to get your money. :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Feel free to pass this onto anyone you see fit.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers
> >> >>
> >> >> Peter J Unmack peter.unmack at asu.edu
> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> DESERT FISHES RULE: To boldly thrive where no other fish can make it!
> >> >>
> >> >> Australian desert fishes pages at ozdesertfish.base.org (don't forget
> to
> >> >> visit the Desert Fishes Council pages too)
> >> >> Native Fish Australia pages at www.nativefish.asn.au
> >> >> North American Native Fishes Association at www.nanfa.org
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> BREED YOUR FISH
> >> TODAY MAN'S OVER-
> >> POPULATION IS
> >> KILLING THE WILD
> >> SUPPLY
> >> ICQ # 1819967 net chat
> >> any time on
> >> Al Anderson
> >> killiman at indy.net
>
>