Re: [RML] Peacock Gudgeons, Tateurndina ocellicauda

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>caryho at ix.netcom.com wrote:

>> >it almost seemed that I
>> >had gotten only males...
>> On the strain I have, the females can readily be told apart by the
>> black edge on the anal fin. This is 100% true with mine, but I have
>> heard of other strains where this isn't so (some females lack the
>> black).

> Thanks!!!

> Several years back I had some peacock gudgeon follow me home from an
>area shop and the females had the black margin on the anal fin. In time I
>passed their fry on to others.

> Last spring a bag of youngsters showed up at a local Chicago area
>auction and I purchased them again. Quite small, but equipped with
>remarkable appetites they grew relatively quickly. I got a couple of
>spawns when they were smaller, pulled the pvc pipe from the well planted
>10 gallon tank and saved some fry. This summer there haven't been any
>spawns. I couldn't believe my eyes in that there seems to be nobody among
>the five residents with a black stripe. (I hear them laughing at my
>consternation.)

> Here then is a question for the thread: do high summer temperatures
>discourage spawning as elevated metabolisms use up the food? Although
>water changes were not as aggressively done as with the rainbows, they
>were kept up. Are there others who have noticed that they may just switch
>off for a while?

> A small observation from when I had them before and couldn't get them to
>stop procreating... After the pair had spawned the female was removed
>from the tank and dumped, with some tank water, in a temporary plastic 2
>and 1/2 gallon Lustar tank. In time, as the fry became free swimming, the
>male and pvc pipe joined her. Frantic work demands precluded doing much
>for them that week so a small bunch of blackworms (lacking sifted
>Daphnia) were squirted in with them and they were left to their own
>devices for a time. When I checked back some days had elapsed. Most of
>the blackworms (from a uniquely good batch - I wish I had time to grow
>them in a tank of their own like one local does) were gone. The gudgeons
>not only had spawned, but were going about their business oblivious to
>the small cloud of fry they shared that little tank with.

> The few articles that have been published in the slicks have never
>mentioned that happening. (Maybe those people were too fastitious.) This
>tolerance of fry has happened for me with M. praecox and a bunch of other
>rif-raf (mostly killies, livebearers and even generations of king's
>tetras) so I wasn't too surprised to see it happen except in such
>confined quarters. Have others observed this with Tateurndina? Thanks for
>your time.

> All the best!

> Scott Davis
> Park Forest, IL