At 11:25 PM 5/22/96 +-1000, Dr Bruce forwarded:
>From: GWLANG at ccmail.monsanto.com[SMTP:GWLANG at ccmail.monsanto.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 1996 18:07
>Gary Lange has been trying to crystalise the status of those stocks of this
species in aquaria especially in the USA -
>
>Below is a conversation that Bruce and I had off line in response to the LTR
>(M. herbertaxelrodi) question. Shortly afterwards Dr. Allen arrived back in
>town and blipped off a message to me with his input on these fish. Both of my
>paragraphs to them are slightly rephrased to make best use of the space. I
>think it straightens out a little of this for me.
(snip)
>I thought that Jerry was on the email list & was hoping to draw his response
>out.
If anyone knows Jerry well enough and thinks that he would be OK with it,
they should extend an invitation to him to join the list. Please don't post
his email address here without his permission, he may not wish to be
bombarded with questions! This list has been home to some very sensible
discussion so far, and I would hope that it remains that way, but it may
not, and I wouldn't wish the list to be the cause of ill will.
>Bruce Hansen reply:
>Please don't discard your stock or consider them as "crosses" just because
of my
>ramblings. I HAVE NO HARD EVIDENCE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN INFUSED WITH TRIFASCIATA
>GENES.
>
>I guess what we all need is the chance to get some more wild genes from PNG and
>at present we have NO chance.
That's my hope... not wholesale importation of ATMs (Anything That Moves)
but small, sporadic importations of "fresh blood" (bad term, I know!) of
designated species that are of proven conservation interest.
>I think the ideal way for us at present is to get some breeder like John Doley
>in Darwin to breed his adults in a controlled situation, raise all his fry
>outside on as natural a diet as possible with water parameters as close as
>possible to LakeTebera and select ruthlessly for all observable
>characteristics, including colour and body shape and keep breeding from a
school
>of about 20- 30 pairs for several generations.
Sounds good - does John have a modem? (I know he has a phone!)
>It would be a good way to produce a heap of catfood.
More economical IMHO than Blue Eyes. Do you know how many it takes to make a
decent feed?
>Thanks everyone who participated in this discussion - also the one on TB.
Gary is trying to do a summary of that one too and will send it on for use
in, our publications when he is happy with it.
>
>Bruce Hansen.
Well, that'd be an alternative to the electronic archiving of the list
material, because if it were put on paper that way it would be available to
all concerned (as long as everyone agrees to bulk copyright permission on
any quoted material from the list, I guess - what's the feeling on this? Or
is it Public Domain by virtue of having been published electrically anyhow?
I'd appreciate some guidance on this).
Regards, Andrew
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Andrew Boyd - andrew at pcug.org.au - http://www.pcug.org.au/~andrew
Evolution takes no prisoners....
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