It even goes a step beyond our wholesalers. I've asked what a particluar
rainbow was and their response is "whatever it came in as."
The most recent problem I've been having is determining which M. trifasciata
is on the lists. They just don't know.
Mike
At 07:16 AM 3/27/97 +1000, you wrote:
>
>I don't think the people at the store are the problem Mike. They generally
>are at the mercy of the wholesaler and as far as the wholesaler is
>concerned if it sells it's OK.
>
>The only way to stop this trade in crosses is for the retailer not to buy
>them unless they have a proper scientific name attached and then you have a
>reason to reject them if they are not "true".
>
>Cheers
>
>Bruce
>Bruce Hansen, ANGFA
>Check out our web site a http://www.angfa.org
>Remember, "When in doubt, leave it out!"
>
>----------
>> From: Mike Adams Jr. <mfadam1 at pop.uky.edu>
>> To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
>> Subject: Re: [RML] New Topic
>> Date: Thursday, 27 March 1997 5:37
>>
>> As you may or may not know, I am one of those "evil" people who works at
>a
>> pet store and we sell a lot of rainbows. I do the best i can to maintain
>> the integrity of the fish that we get in, fueled mainly by what i hear
>here
>> on the rml and in talking with others in this hobby. Sometimes, the
>> wholesalers make it impossible for me to have any confidence in what i am
>> selling. A couple of weeks ago, for example, I ordered what were
>supposed
>> to be red-finned macs from someone and was sent "red tail eight lines",
>> instead. I didn't say anything until a week later and it was the first
>> complaint they had heard about it. So, then, what am I to do? I have
>> complete control over the fish (freshwater) that we bring in to the
>store.
>> At the end of next month, we will be moving to a new location that will
>> include many more tanks, including bigger and smaller ones, plus a large
>> holding facility in the back. What I would like to ask from the group,
>> here, is for some suggestions as to how I can offer people quality
>rainbows
>> whose lineage i can be sure of. If these buggers grew more quickly, i
>would
>> be content to bring eggs and hatch them myself and raise the fry.
>> Unfortunately, that is not the case. Are there any distrubutors out
>there
>> I might be missing that I should consider? I would even consider
>bringing
>> fish in from Europe if that's possible. I really feel that there is a
>> market out there for quality fish of superior bloodstocks. Everyone here
>> seems to have it in for the pet stores, and from what i've seen at other
>> shops, i can't blame them too much. But there are some out there that do
>> give a damn. What would you like to see? How would YOU do it
>differently.
>>
>> MikeA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 08:00 AM 3/26/97 +1000, you wrote:
>> >Hello All,
>> >
>> >Since "hobbyist bashing" seems to be the flavour of the month over here
>by
>> >some of the so-called "commercial" breeders I would like Listmembers to
>> >contribute their experiences, memories and imagination for a moment.
>> >
>> >Please tell us your impressions of the commercial offerings seen in
>> >petshops. Also what you think was the cause of the problem. Perhaps we
>can
>> >offer them some ideas on how to improve their product instead of them
>> >trying to eliminate the "backyarder" because they sell better fish
>cheaper.
>> >
>> >Surely with the economies of scale the commercial breeder should be able
>to
>> >produce a cheaper fish. All we have to do is get them to produce a
>better
>> >fish. Having seen some of the commercial set-ups I will start the ball
>> >rolling on causes ( I will leave my assessments of quality unsaid for
>now).
>> >
>> >1. Poor selection of stock initially - especially females
>> >2. Keeping breeders with fry
>> >3. Allowing contamination of broodstock with other bloodlines (
>especially
>> >females), either accidentally with shared nets, overflows or ignorance.
>> >4.Poor attention to culling of defects and poor performers. Nothing
>looks
>> >worse than uneven quality and sizes in a tank of supposedly
>"professionally
>> >produced" fish.
>> >
>> >
>> >That's enough for now - let's hear form some others.
>> >
>> >Cheers
>> >
>> >Bruce
>> >
>> >Bruce Hansen, ANGFA
>> >Check out our web site a http://www.angfa.org
>> >Remember, "When in doubt, leave it out!"
>> >
>> >
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> Mike Adams Jr.
>> University of Kentucky
>> Graduate Studies in Environmental Engineering
>>
>> "Those who say it can't be done better get out
>> of the way of those who are doing it"
>>
>> o
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>> RSG
>> ANGFA
>>
>
>
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Mike Adams Jr.
University of Kentucky
Graduate Studies in Environmental Engineering
"Those who say it can't be done better get out
of the way of those who are doing it"
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ANGFA