Re: [RML]where do I get good fish? (Mops)

bowluvr (bowluvr at email.msn.com)
Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:07:39 -0800

> > Steve- I just saw a pic of 'Herbies' and they are beautiful!
>
> Because of this chat I picked up Allen's more recent Rainbow book again
and
> browsed his account of getting out of the helicopter (sort of leaning
> against a bare spot near the lake). He related entering the lake with a
> snorkel and finding a blue hole with all sorts of herbies around him. He
> suggested that their wild colors put captive populations to shame. That
must
> have been some swim!

Herbies were the fish that got me started in my Rainbowmania. :-) I saw a
picture in "Dr" Herbie's big atlas, you know, the photo that is in there
that takes up 2 pages. Upon seeing that photo of that fish I knew I had to
have them. Of course I couldn't get any, it being the mid-eighties and my
fishy resources not being nearly what they are today. Instead I played some
w/ Aust. bows and boesemani. Then, later, M. lacustris and G. incisus. All
told, from the day I saw that photo to the day I owned my first good Herbies
(IMHO I think the Asian/Florida farm-bred stuff is crap) was about 6 years.I
still have the descendants from those original fish, and my big male looks
just like that photo when he's feeling his oats. :-)

> I feel
> > like a kid in a candy store. How many different types of bows can one
> > have in a tank?

As many as you can comfortably fit, but remember that they are schooling
fish and should be in groups to look their best. I always try to keep very
different spp together so that I can not only tell apart the males, but the
much more subtly colored females as well. I never breed them in mixed
groups, but separate them into species tanks. Most bows get along well
together, esp if they are all close to the same size at maturity. There are
individuals who are exceptions tho.

>
> > What do others in this list do? Do you have a few specific types in one
> > tank? or several schools of different types? or several tanks....

All of the above. :-) I have a "retirement" community tank, I do mix fry
of spp that are easily told apart, and all breeders get species-only tanks.

> You are wise not to want to move the little ones around too much. If I
have
> to, they get lifted from the water surface in a jar and dumped in some of
> the same water in their new tank. Unscientifically they get moved either
> when they are getting crowded or that tank is needed for something else.
>
> As a relative newbie myself, I would be interested in what other list
> members feel is appropriate for grow out and when they should be moved on,
> also. :)

I pull mops to 10 gallon tanks (these are what I have the most of) and hatch
and raise them there. I don't do water changes til they're about 3 weeks
old, but use small feedings and snails to help control waste. Then I do
small water changes, gradually moving to larger ones. I do not attempt to
move fry until they are almost an inch long, as they sometimes "roll over
and die" even with the most careful of capture techniques. Larger tanks
would be better if one wishes to raise more than 40-50 fry up at once, but I
never have that many of any one spp at any one time... at least not on
purpose. ;-)

Julie <><