Re: [RML]where do I get good fish? (Mops)

Scott Davis (unclescott at
Mon, 19 Mar 2001 03:11:30 -0600

> Steve- I just saw a pic of 'Herbies' and they are beautiful!

Because of this chat I picked up Allen's more recent Rainbow book again and
browsed his account of getting out of the helicopter (sort of leaning
against a bare spot near the lake). He related entering the lake with a
snorkel and finding a blue hole with all sorts of herbies around him. He
suggested that their wild colors put captive populations to shame. That must
have been some swim!

I have never raised large numbers of them because of space considerations,
but used to take vials of about 40 eggs to a local aquarium club meeting. A
couple members were picking them up, hatching them and getting 39 of the 40
to grow up! One of those people raised the next generation and filled a 125
gallon tank with them. That too was a magnificent vision.

He was the guy who worked the Tyrannosaurus rex Sue out of her encasement in
rock. When he took that job with the Chicago Museum of Natural History, he
cut back (with the long week and tight deadline) on fishkeeping. The herbies
were given to the Shedd Aquarium. I really ought to go down there and see if
they are still going.

I feel
> like a kid in a candy store. How many different types of bows can one
> have in a tank?
I was kind of waiting for someone else to pick particular question up, but
if you want to breed your rainbows, please never mix them! One the other
hand, given space to rumble, a community of different, similar sized
rainbows can be spectacular. I would also include only rainbows which you
can tell apart. Any fry surviving in that tank should be fed to somebody. It
is not easy or cheap to fly across the Pacific, arrange for the rental of a
helicopter, complete whatever red tape must accompany such an effort and
then local an isolated lake and collect there.

I know that there are several people on this list who have collected in Oz.
They can relate their adventures. Some Australian rainbows are hard to get.
Those from Papua New Guinea must be a lot harder. As an ordinary aquarist
far removed, don't ever assume that if local stock is spoiled that one can
go back and collect new stock.

> What do others in this list do? Do you have a few specific types in one
> tank? or several schools of different types? or several tanks....

and from your other post:
>What state are you from?

Northern Illinois. I don't get to club actions like I used to. (Heck, no
room in the tanks, calendar or wallet.) But occasionally there is a wander
to Indiana or Michigan for neat killies or livebearers. There are a couple
of Michiganders in the Kalamazoo area raising rainbows.

I should amble down the interstate (or better yet, fly Southwest Airlines)
to the Missouri A.S. (Gary Lange land) and see what they have at auction.

>After I move in June, I will be setting up a new 55G. I have a 29G and 20H
that I will be moving the fish from them into the 55G. Which size is better
for growing the bows from the mop?

A mantra I keep repeating on the killie list for everything from killies to
Daphnia is that bigger is better so long as the fry can reach the food.
Larger tanks are more forgiving on water parameters. (I like to spend other
people's money, space and time.)

> What is the approx. length of time they will need before able to go into
the larger tank?

You are wise not to want to move the little ones around too much. If I have
to, they get lifted from the water surface in a jar and dumped in some of
the same water in their new tank. Unscientifically they get moved either
when they are getting crowded or that tank is needed for something else.

As a relative newbie myself, I would be interested in what other list
members feel is appropriate for grow out and when they should be moved on,
also. :)

All the best!

Steve, er ... Scott

Who has been called a lot worse.