Re: [RML] Fish and Endocrine disrupters

Rob Wager (raintree at
Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:42:04 +1000

It was I. Thanks Yolonde, interesting reading.
Rob Wager
Raintree Aquatics Pty Ltd
Aquatic Environment and Aquaculture Specialists
1002 Caboolture River Road
Rocksberg  QLD  4510
Phone: 07 5496 7939  Facsimile: 07 5497 0022
Email: raintree at
-----Original Message-----
From: Y Jasperson <jasperson at>
To: Rainbow Fish Mailing List <rainbowfish at>
Date: Sunday, 19 July 1998 15:55
Subject: [RML] Fish and Endocrine disrupters

A while ago someone emailed the list about certain deformaties in fish.  I posted back some information about a documentary I saw concerning estrogen like substances that had been found to cause various deformaties in males (human and animal/fish) and them to behave in female like manner eg attempt to reproduce eggs etc.  I remember at the time quite a few people stuck their nose up at the studies the program presented (one who worked for a chemical company and who said - with such an air of infallibility - that he would never be involved with something that could cause this much harm).  I recently have come across this article on the net that runs along similar lines.  It might be of some interest to open minded people who do not presume that they know all things.
From ??? at ??? Mon Jul 20 23:13:04 1998 Received: (from majordom at localhost) by (8.8.7/8.8.7/TIP-1.13) id JAA09569; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:55:13 +1000 (EST) Received: (from smtpd at localhost) by (8.8.7/8.8.7/TIP-1.13) id JAA09554; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:55:08 +1000 (EST) Received: from supreme( via SMTP by supreme, id smtpdAAAa002L8; Mon Jul 20 09:54:59 1998 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:54:57 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew Boyd X-Sender: andrew at supreme To: rainbowfish at Subject: Re: [RML] The most poisonous substance? In-Reply-To: < at> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-rainbowfish at Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rainbowfish at X-UIDL: 07ee6edb6a52623be61ccbe3520aef84 Hi Adrian (and others), on toxic substances, a) go and ask the frog population in your local area how they are dealing with glyphosate-based herbicides. b) do a little research on PCBs (polychlorinated biphenols) when you are talking about Agent Orange and it's equivalents in modern industrial use - it should scare the stuffing out of you. As an aside, we used to be able to buy a fairly nasty herbicide at any local garden centre here in Australia. It was called Lane's Tree and Blackberry Killer and it contained 24-D and 245-T. Residual as all hell, and strangely enough not available anymore ;) Cheers, Andrew On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, Adrian R. Tappin wrote: > At 16:18 19/07/98 +1000, you wrote: > >Another interesting article about chemicals and deformaties. > > > >Yolonde > > > > > > If I remember right dioxin was the active ingredient in 245-T and was used > extensively as a herbicide in Australia (and all over the world) in the cane > growing areas of North Queensland. In Vietnam this herbicide (Agent Orange) > was used at strengths not allowed in agriculture. Deformities have been well > documented in all animal species. Some farmers also suffered long-term > effects from consistent use. I believe it is now a banned substance all over > the world. One would think that mankind learnt his lesson but unfortunately > we haven't. We must always remember that if we forget history we will be > doomed to relive it again. > > Adrian. > ............................................................... > Adrian R. Tappin > "Home of the Rainbowfish" > > ............................................................... > >