RE: [RML] Growing Tropical Fish Outdoors in Temperate climates

Michael Adams (madams at fmsm.com)
Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:37:30 -0400

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Hi Gary...I had great success setting up 55G tanks on cinder blocks in the
middle of my garden. I would put an old strip light on top and put it on a
timer to come on at dusk and stay on for a couple of hours to attract bugs.
I had the most success with praecox and would start with a four or five
females and a couple of males and by the end of the summer I would have a
fleet of little suckers swimming around that I would take to the LFS to
sell. I have always wanted to take this to a new level by putting in a
large pond but haven't come across the time to do that yet...or figured out
how I'm going to remove all the fish at the end of the summer.

Mike

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From: Gary Lange [rainbowfish4u2 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 11:47 PM
To: rainbow mail list
Subject: [RML] Growing Tropical Fish Outdoors in Temperate climates

Here's a question for you. I'm really interested in answers from those that
live in temperate climates, that is us poor chaps that have to drag our fish
in over the winter lest they die from the cold. Those that spell beer, XXXX
can chime in too but we hate you :-) since our fish can't stay out year
round. I'm really looking for 100 gallon size containers or larger though
as I think the smaller systems end up heating/cooling too much and tend to
have more problems if not handed carefully.
What type of (tropical) fish are you raising in your 100+ gallon ponds?
Especially rainbows but others too.
If you have fish out are you putting more than one species out at a time?
Now I know responsible bow owners are only putting out one species or
varities like one Pseudomugil, one Rhadinocentrus and one Melanotaenia, I'm
looking for other things.

Do you put bows for the topwater, swordtails or other livebearer for the
middle layer and perhaps something like a pleco or peacock gudgeon for the
bottom layer? Do you have plants, lilies etc., to help keep the watercool
and hide babies, and hold in the heat when the temps drop?
Above or below ground pond?
I think one of the ways to measure success for breedable fish is: How many
more did you pull in versus put out for the summer?
What was your best fish (breeding success) you ever put out, what was your
worst?
Anything to worry about besides zoning laws (ponds less than 18-24 inches in
depth) racoons, cranes, curious children, mosquito spraying departments and
wandering dogs?

I've put out various combinations of bows, LB's (Xiph) and bristlenose
plecos and sometimes a bonus LB like Limia. I was wondering if there was
anything else that I could add to this combo and still come up with a decent
batch of bows & swords.

cheers,

Gary Lange
gwlange at sbcglobal.net <gwlange at sbcglobal.net>
www.missouriaquariumsociety.org <http://www.missouriaquariumsociety.org>
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Hi <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Gary</st1:place></st1:City>...I
had great success setting up 55G tanks on cinder blocks in the middle of my
garden.  I would put an old strip
light on top and put it on a timer to come on at dusk and stay on for a couple
of hours to attract bugs.  I had the
most success with praecox and would start with a four or five females and a
couple of males and by the end of the summer I would have a fleet of little
suckers swimming around that I would take to the LFS to sell.    I have always wanted to take this to a
new level by putting in a large pond but haven't come across the time to
do that yet...or figured out how I'm going to remove all the fish at
the end of the summer.<o:p></o:p>

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Mike<o:p></o:p>

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From: Gary Lange
[rainbowfish4u2 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005
11:47 PM 
To: rainbow mail list 
Subject: [RML] Growing Tropical
Fish Outdoors in Temperate climates<o:p></o:p>

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Here's a question for you.  I'm really
interested in answers from those that live in temperate climates, that is us
poor chaps that have to drag our fish in over the winter lest they die from the
cold.  Those that spell beer, XXXX can chime in too but we hate you :-)
since our fish can't stay out year round.  I'm really looking for 100
gallon size containers or larger though as I think the smaller systems end up
heating/cooling too much and tend to have more problems if not handed
carefully.  <o:p></o:p>

</div>

<div>

What type of (tropical) fish are you
raising in your 100+ gallon ponds?  <o:p></o:p>

</div>

<div>

Especially rainbows but others
too.  <o:p></o:p>

</div>

<div>

If you have fish out are you putting more
than one species out at a time?  Now I know responsible bow owners are
only putting out one species or varities like one Pseudomugil, one
Rhadinocentrus and one Melanotaenia, I'm looking for other things. <o:p></o:p>

</div>

<div>

<o:p></o:p>

</div>

<div>

Do you put bows for the topwater, swordtails
or other livebearer for the middle layer and perhaps something like a pleco or
peacock gudgeon for the bottom layer?  Do you have plants, lilies etc., to
help keep the watercool and hide babies, and hold in the heat when the
temps drop?  <o:p></o:p>

</div>

<div>

Above or below ground pond?  <o:p></o:p>

</div>

<div>

I think one of the ways to measure success
for breedable fish is: How many more did you pull in versus put out for the
summer?  <o:p></o:p>

</div>

<div>

What was your best fish (breeding success)
you ever put out, what was your worst?  <o:p></o:p>

</div>

<div>

Anything to worry about besides zoning laws
(ponds less than 18-24 inches in depth) racoons, cranes, curious children,
mosquito spraying departments and wandering dogs?  <o:p></o:p>

</div>

<div>

<o:p></o:p>

</div>

<div>

I've put out various combinations of bows,
LB's (Xiph) and bristlenose plecos and sometimes a bonus LB like
Limia.  I was wondering if there was anything else that I could add to
this combo and still come up with a decent batch of bows & swords.<o:p></o:p>

</div>

<div>

<o:p></o:p>

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cheers,<o:p></o:p>

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<o:p></o:p>

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Gary Lange 
<a href="gwlange at sbcglobal.net">gwlange at sbcglobal.net</a> 
<a href="http://www.missouriaquariumsociety.org">www.missouriaquariumsociety.org</a><o:p></o:p>

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