maybe check with a state or federal agency. (Fish and Wildlife, DLNR, any
aquaculture fisheries agency.
MTF
At 09:37 AM 1/8/99 -1000, you wrote:
>Bruce,
>
>Sadly, I just today finally found someone local who could do the necropsy
>but I cannot afford the costs of the pathology...all said and done estimate
>$200-250. :(
>
>carvi
>
>At 10:31 PM 1/8/99 +1000, you wrote:
>>Carvi
>>
>>Please try to get the affected fish pathologically assessed so you know
>>whether your concerns are warranted. The trouble with this disease is that
>>we don't have a simple, cheap and reliable test for this rotten bug.
>>
>>You have accurately assessed the potential for "unconcious" spread of this
>>problem and because it is the great pretender/imitator any sick fish may
>>represent the problem. Unfortunately unless there is a definitive diagnosis
>>your concerns may or may not be warranted.
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>Bruce.
>>
>>Bruce Hansen, A.N.G.F.A., Advancing Australian Aquatics.
>>
>>Bruce Hansen, ANGFA, caring for our aquatic ecosystems.
>>
>>Please visit us at http://www.ozemail.com.au/~fisher/angfa.htm
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Carvi Shamsid-Deen <csha at usa.net>
>>To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au <rainbowfish at pcug.org.au>
>>Date: Friday, 8 January 1999 10:04
>>Subject: Re: [RML] Dark half or quarter on rainbowfish
>>
>>
>>>Since it appears that myco doesn't require a host for at least an extended
>>>period of time and can be found on plants and in fish not exhibiting signs
>>>it appears to me there's no way to get rid of it in aquariums. Pass a fish
>>>around that you've no idea has it because it's not been stressed?
>>>Exchange/purchase plants that carry it and add it to a perfectly fine tank?
>>>
>>>I suspect that I have this in one of my bow tanks, but there's no way for
>>>me to know that it hasn't spread anywhere else, if in fact it is myco. The
>>>fish that is exhibiting discoloration at the mouth with what looks like a
>>>scrape that didn't heal has been this way for several months now. He
>>>actually has been looking better this week. I've just left him in there
>>>with the others. He has been growing at what appears to be a normal pace
>>>and the discoloration grew with him. They are all fry from my original
>>>group of boesemanis. So, when did they get it? Where did they get it? Was
>>>it passed from parents that have yet to exhibit any signs over the past
>>>couple years? Was this on plants I got from someone else's tank who had
>>>fish showing no signs? Or maybe some other species of fish I have...none of
>>>which had exhibited any sign of illness? Have I since given it to someone
>>>else by providing fish I hadn't a clue about nor any reason to suspect may
>>>have been carriers?
>>>
>>>Not seeing any sign of illness I moved four of the largest fry into the
>>>tank with the parents (prior to this fish exhibiting - don't know if he was
>>>even in this fry tank at the time as I was continually moving fry in). As I
>>>recall, one died in the parent tank within several days with no outward
>>>signs of illness. Saw it hiding one night w/heavy breathing and thought it
>>>was possibly being harassed. Turned off lights. Decided to watch tank
>>>closely. Next day it was dead before I could determine cause. Waited for
>>>days/maybe 2-3 weeks and saw no more problems. Added three more fry to
>>>parent tank. They have been doing well for months and appear to be happily
>>>growing and spawning right along with the parents (although snacking on
>>>fry). So, are these carriers but not exhibiting? Are the parents carriers
>>>and passed it vertically? Or are none in the parent tank infected? Or are
>>>they all now infected from the fry added back?
>>>
>>>I've had three other fish (not bows) die within the past 4-6 weeks...don't
>>>know cause but all exhibited signs of emaciation over a period of two-three
>>>weeks...again, signs of tb but other illnesses as well. But I have 18 tanks
>>>of fish. This is a low mortality rate I'd say but for me it's high because
>>>I simply haven't lost this many fish in such a short time period. Heck,
>>>I've normally maybe lost one fish in a year, if that. This is, however, the
>>>most tanks I've ever had and am now having a difficult time considering
>>>destroying many and tearing them down. I do question my role in all of
>>>this...more tanks, more do not get maintenance as regular as with less
>>>tanks. And truthfully after hearing more and more about this disease have
>>>thought of getting rid of everything and going tankless. I am also
>>>concerned about transfer to humans as my immune system is compromised.
>>>Forget just putting hands/arms in tanks. How many start syphons by sucking
>>>on hose? Water get in mouth? How about in between bucket changes? I've
>>>since set up separate buckets/hoses for the tanks, no more transferring
>>>anything including plants (cuttings used to stock other tanks) and play the
>>>wait and see game. I guess the next thing is to purchase gloves. I don't
>>>know what else to do. Am trying to locate someone to look at the one
>>>exhibiting fish.
>>>
>>>Carvi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Carvi
>
>
>
Mach T. Fukada, Editor
fukada at hawaii.edu
Honolulu Aquarium Society
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2948/HASF.html