Re: [RML] The List

peter.unmack at ASU.Edu
Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:47:59 -0700 (MST)

On Sat, 18 Jan 1997, Ray Cone wrote:
> peter.unmack at ASU.Edu wrote:
> > On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, James Purchase wrote:

> Treat the symptom but not the cause eh?

But you see we have had this discussion before, and the majority of
people who post most of the messages don't want to constrain the fun side
of things too much. I'll be the first to agree that some posts are
purely unneccessary and some have no fish content what so ever. Perhaps
we need to require some fish content in all posts? But then you can miss
some of the offbeat humour that I and some others enjoy.

> members. I think even in your response here you concur many of the
> items are crass and definitely not related to the lists theme...if the

But that's half the "skill" in posting something serious with content and
a bit of light stuff on the side. Sure, not everyone sees the funny side
in all posts but the odd one has me in stiches. But at least there was
content. Australians also tend to have a more open sense of humour than
many other cultures, thus I can understand where the funny side can
sometimes be lost on others and taken more as a rude offense. But again,
most of this humour is between folks who know one another too.

> commentary regarding various members sexual preferences should be left
> to private channels or the nearest pub.

That's the best part! :-) ;=)

> discussion of collection and sale of wild fish is an excellent example
> of why "the other 80 members" refrain from contributing.

That was just degenerating into a slanging match with little or no real
content, just ethical opinions. I was enjoying it though! :-)

> and surrounding areas. What are the "proper" channels for native fish
> sales there and additionally how are specimens exported?

You are not allowed to sell wild collected fish without the appropriate
license which some states don't have (ie, you can't do it at all). In some
states you require a fishing licence (ie, for collecting "baitfish", but
this only allows you to use a dip net or similar. To use "real"
collecting gear like a seine requires a permit which are not given out
very easily. Exportation is doable but a pain in the backside. I'm sure
Roy can tell us more about it. :-) His backside is still hurting from
it.......

> Peter, I would really like to meet you sometime and see about trying
> my hand at keeping, possibly breeding some of the gobies you've
> mentioned and beautifully depict on your webpage. We seem to be
> neighbors in that I live in Mesa, Az. If you teach courses at ASU on
> the desert fishes, I would eagerly enroll...you seem very educated on

Alas, I am only a lowly masters student at ASU (although I am TAing the
ichthyology lab this semester). Sure, it would be great to catch up with
you and exchange "tails". Why don't you email me a phone number off
the list and I will give you a call and perhaps get together tomorrow
arvo (afternoon) or whenever. Incase you don't have it,
peter.unmack at asu.edu.

> Best regards to all, I hope my note hasn't stepped too profoundly
> upon anyone's toes...if some of those with a "very strong long term
> common interest" have taken offense, possibly this list has become too
> exclusive for new, information seeking members such as my self...?

No one gets too out of joint here if one were to step on their toes. I'm
glad to see a few new members making the effort to post and introduce
themselves. It's the only way to maximise exchanges on the list and to
further ones interest. You can pick up a lot from watching, but there is
nothing like getting involved. I think we all look forward to hearing
from more of you and your opinions.

Tootles

Peter Unmack