[RML] Moving to the New Year for a change ...

Ken Brook (kbrook at netspace.net.au)
Fri, 29 Dec 2000 12:27:03 +1000

Yes was close the rainwater idea in "BrisVegas" myself but then you'd have to
decide about the industrial pollutants that settle on our roofs .... maybe could
use a "discard the first flush system" (remember seeing the system from
somewhere). But if there's a drought like recently - you'd need many many
barrels to buffer you against the climate.

And BrisVegas indeed from undeclared whereabouts list member... comments like
this make we banana benders get out the secession papers again ... and have
you noticed that very few decent native fish live south of the Tweed River
anyway ... :-)

Matthew Stanton wrote:

> It occurs to me that a lot of you could get around the tap water problems
> just by collecting and storing a bit of rain water. Back when I was on town
> water I just cut the top out of a plastic 240 litre drum and sat it under a
> broken bit of down pipe. The drums cost me five dollars a piece but I have
> since discovered that you can get them for nothing from large bakeries or
> other food producers. They only get used once for things like lactic acid or
> other ingredients. Once you have cut the top off the barrel it is easily
> cleaned. The cost would come if you wanted to have a pressurised system (as
> opposed to bucket brigade). A solid stand to hold the barrel(s) 1.5 m off
> the ground and the hose/pipe with tap might set you back a few dollars.
> Obviously this won't suit everyone. During a drought you would either have
> to drastically cut back the feeds or go back to using the tap water.
> I used to think it would be pretty neat to have a tank set up that only had
> water changes when it was raining, i.e. the water flows off the roof and
> into the tank which then overflows the tank to a drain. The technical
> difficulties associated with such a system for tropical fish in a temperate
> climate have made me change my mind. If I lived in BrisVegas I'd give it a
> go.
> Phil's note about Canberra tap water is interesting as it is similar to a
> problem I have with my 105000 litre concrete water tank (10 years old). The
> pH is often off the scale but the hardness is actually very low so as soon
> as I put the water into an aquarium, the substrate easily "resets" the pH to
> a more midrange level (within a couple of minutes). No need to use any
> bottle products. I wonder if they use concrete water pipes around Canberra?
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Phil [SMTP:peekay at acay.com.au]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 6:21 AM
> > To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
> > Subject: Re: [RML] Re: Filtering tap water (was unhappy xmas)
> >
> > I live in Canberra, where pH out of the tap is often well into the 9's. I
> > usually use Seachems Acid Buffer and have found it cheaper to use in the
> > long run than sodium biphosphate as it is much more powerfull and has the
> > added advantage of being phosphate free.
> >
> > Canberra water is very strange, it has almost zero general hardness, zero
> > carbonate hardness and very high pH. It is good though, very easy to
> > manipulate for any species.
> >
> > Phil.