Re: [RML] breeding viable axelrod eggs

Johannes Graf (J.Graf at web.de)
Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:24:08 +0200

Hi Gary, thanks for these good hints. I am actually trying to find out w= hat factor works best. As the hardness is quite low in my area, I am increa= singit at the moment. The fishes are about 4,5 cm long and showing ful= l color. The males are attracting like crazy. I hope that fertility will in= crease when they are growing on.

About the natural habitat is only on= e reference, this is the article from G.R Allen in TFH 1982 if I remember r= ight. This species is found in only one small river about 40 km from Vanimo= in the Bewani mountains. Water was clear with light tannine tone. Not much= hardness. But all those factors can differ over the year, because the coll= ecting trips are mostly done in the dry season.

Regards, Johannes

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r_m_l at yahoogroups.com schrieb am 13.04.05 16:21:07:

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The fish didn't seem all that fertile to me either when I had them.&nb= sp; What hardness are you keeping them in?  Since a lot of IJ/PNG is h= ard water perhaps increasing the hardness to ~ 200 ppm might help things.&n= bsp; If you're already there, oh well.  Are we talking about at least = 2 inch fish or are these still real small?  Young males don't always h= ave the process down and it takes a little maturity on their part to get it= right.  The other factor that has helped me increase viability on sev= eral types of fish is to feed more live foods.  It's amazing what good= feedings of live daphnia and mosquito larvae will do for egg production an= d viability.  I don't remember whether the stream was a faster moving = or a slower moving stream but you might try moving the temps down to 75 deg= rees and increasing water movement/O2 values and see if that makes a differ= ence.  Sometimes it's the little things that will get the male more in= tuned so that he'll do his job.  Good luck with them as this really i= s a nice species.  Too bad more people haven't gone into this area to = see just how much broader the location area really is.  So many of the= se bows have just been collected from one area.  The G. doryiti and pr= obably now the G. pseudoincisus areas are being expanded each time they loo= k in nearby lakes. 
 
Gary Lange

<= I>Johannes Graf <J.Graf at web.de> wrote:

I can confirm Chilatherina axelrodi is in Europe, swimming = in my fishroom. It was a big effort to import them from Australia, but it w= as worth it. It=B4s a beauty.

But breeding is more than difficult. Fr= om 50 eggs one is hatching. Compared with G. maculosus, the mac is easy-to-= breed. That is the reason why swapping eggs could be problematic. I am buil= ding up a breeding stock at the moment.  If the quantity is enough, it= would be possible to send young fish to the US. But this will take so= me time. 

Johannes

 

 

r_m_l at yahoogr= oups.com schrieb am 12.04.05 16:28:54:
There is a new strain of C. axelr= odi in Europe, but it seems it will take a while before there are enough fi= sh to distribute. Gl. maculosus are more or less regularly available within= the IRG, after they had nearly disappeared. Why not trying to swap eggs ac= ross the Atlantic? Harro, do you think this could work? Christophe